57's with pc3
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Topic: 57's with pc3
Posted By: mixdrive1
Subject: 57's with pc3
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 11:46
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So i've heard if i put gen2 57's into a gen1 i need to buy a gen2 pc3! That sound right? Also do i need pc3 or pc3usb or can i fit a pc5??? ------------- current;2001mille,2003R,2003Eddy,2012Tuono. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R and 2x2002mille |
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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 13:17
Err,No, and I'm not totally sure  As in I'm not sure if the PC5 is compatible with the early ECU,it wasn't when it was first introduced but I'm not sure if there is now a work around,Griff is the one who'll know for sure. I know the Gen2 57's need different leads to connect to the early systems,how that effects the Power Commanders I'm not sure. I'll watch this thread with interest as I have a Gen2 top end complete waiting to be used. ------------- www.apworkshops.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk Looking forward to the next track day |
Posted By: mixdrive1
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 16:55
Yeah, my info is third had so not sure, got the 57's now but may am looking out for a cheap pc3, seen 1 for 50 for gen1 but was advised with gen2 57's get a pc3usb for gen2 then it should be plug and play  ------------- current;2001mille,2003R,2003Eddy,2012Tuono. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R and 2x2002mille |
Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 17:08
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I think the later USB pc3 is better than the original 3 but the PC5 has much more potential as long as it will talk nicely to the ECU/injectors. At least that's how I understand it,could well be wrong though,my Mrs thinks I am,quite often ------------- www.apworkshops.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk Looking forward to the next track day |
Posted By: mixdrive1
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 17:40
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After another post on face book think i need to ring Griff as if i can i need a pc5 for a gen1 ------------- current;2001mille,2003R,2003Eddy,2012Tuono. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R and 2x2002mille |
Posted By: kiwi_rsvr
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 17:55
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They don't make a 5 for the Gen1 . Too old technology now. A quick search on Dynojets website shows PCIII only. ------------- www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk |
Posted By: mixdrive1
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 17:57
That's my idea buggered then  ------------- current;2001mille,2003R,2003Eddy,2012Tuono. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R and 2x2002mille |
kiwi_rsvr wrote:Posted By: kiwi_rsvr
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 18:02
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The common route when fitting 57's is to buy an adapter harness from Griff (There are other folks selling them), they change the injector leads to Gen 1 type and then bish bosh bash your PC3 will fit. ------------- www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk |
Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 18:47
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Buy injector adaptors ..griff sells these ....then a pc3 usb not the old serial port one Pcv is for gen2 with O2 sensor -------------  |
Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 18:54
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Got PC3 USB on my Gen1 Big Bore 1060 with hooked carbon air box with Gen2 57's It fookin flies Hehee NickyBoy ------------- www.rsvr.net www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk |
Posted By: Slackey
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 19:38
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What were your Dyno figures on that Nicky? ------------- www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk |
Posted By: mixdrive1
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 19:50
You know anything about the Tigcraft systems Nickyboy? I'm wondering about the performance gains and db ratings on the single system gen1? ------------- current;2001mille,2003R,2003Eddy,2012Tuono. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R and 2x2002mille |
Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 20:26
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Old website with some info %20" rel="nofollow - http://www.deksawyer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bigtig.htm ------------- |
Posted By: Ape
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 20:33
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Links not working mark ------------- www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk RIDE IT LIKE YA STOLE IT BOSS !! |
Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 20:35
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Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2015 at 00:06
132bhp and 88.4lb of torque Hehee NickyBoy ------------- www.rsvr.net www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk |
Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2015 at 00:09
Do I know anything about the Tigcraft systems..... Errrmmmmmm yeeeaaaaahhhhh kinda Haha If you can find a system, they do give good bhp gains, not as much as a 2-2 akra system though Try n see if RedRat will sell you his Hehee.... NickyBoy ------------- www.rsvr.net www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk |
Posted By: 426hemi
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2015 at 06:55
| As a few have said above pc3 usb with the adapted leads and you can modify a Pcv to fit, a few have done it and smaltmoto in Germany sell them already modded and you could then add the autotune. |
Posted By: A82addict
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2015 at 21:55
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Ive a set of 57'S and used PC3 non USB from a Gen 1 RSVR, when Griff and the lads are next up this way I'll be getting 57's fitted with adapter set to suit the injectors, a quick tune up and then fit the PC3 with a custom map.. that will be on top of the renegade airbox mod, Reds modded collector, Akra can so looking for some useful gains.. if everything goes smoothly |
Posted By: mixdrive1
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2015 at 22:07
I too now have the 57's, used pc3, renegade and akra end can, however i'm in 2 minds with either fit the modded collector/akra end can or fit a full 2-2 system. I think the 2-2 akra system with the other mods may give better bhp gains but i'm not sure how much over reds collector mod???  ------------- current;2001mille,2003R,2003Eddy,2012Tuono. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R and 2x2002mille |
Posted By: nitroargi
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2015 at 22:35
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You can use the PC V on the early bikes... http://www.smaltmoto.de/epages/64429347.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64429347/Products/MS-50-PCVRSVRP" rel="nofollow - http://www.smaltmoto.de/epages/64429347.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/64429347/Products/MS-50-PCVRSVRP
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Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2015 at 23:41
That Big Bore Titanium Akra system Mate, makes a HUGE amount of midrange!! The whole setup I've got is geared towards maximum torque, the bhp figure is just a bi product... NickyBoy ------------- www.rsvr.net www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk |
Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 26 Nov 2015 at 10:12
Nicky have you thought about slotted cam sprockets to maximise torque? ------------- |
Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 00:36
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Oooooo Yes Mate many times Ha, Griff talked me out of doing it though! NickyBoy ------------- www.rsvr.net www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk |
Posted By: mixdrive1
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 20:01
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Soooo, we have all seen this sp (arrow) 2-2 gen1 system on ebay...I'm not gonna lie, i'm interested in it...do we know if it will give better bhp/torque than the akra 2-2 system, i've already got 1 1/2 2-2 akra systems but i do like the "rs250" look of the arrow??? ------------- current;2001mille,2003R,2003Eddy,2012Tuono. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R and 2x2002mille |
Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 20:04
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Like it buy it...simples As before Gabro has said this is the best performing system ------------- |
Posted By: mixdrive1
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 20:11
Oh bugger, Gabro does know his sh*t...........Think i'm gonna get very drunk and put in an offer. Personally i don't like the side by side twin systems, however i've always had a week spot for these as i had an arrow system on my 250 all them years ago  ------------- current;2001mille,2003R,2003Eddy,2012Tuono. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R and 2x2002mille |
Posted By: mixdrive1
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 20:21
Well...I offered 500 but no go, even drunk i don't want to pay more than that on a track bike so i'm out  ------------- current;2001mille,2003R,2003Eddy,2012Tuono. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R and 2x2002mille |
Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 20:29
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Gabro ain't wrong, the shotgun system is one of the best performing out there but different systems will give different gains so it's a question of what your after, power or torque and where abouts in the rev range you want it...? NickyBoy ------------- www.rsvr.net www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk |
Posted By: mixdrive1
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 20:37
Well i only really use the very top of the revs on track, just loosing out to a 2005 cbr600 at the min, so just want a little more power without spending too much.....He's had his pc'd so i'm going from totally standard this year to pc3, 57's renegade airbox, rcs but can't decide on exhaust....Got a tigcraft and akra 2-2 but they maybe too nice to throw down the track and i'm worried about dbs. Edging more towards redrats modded collector and akra end can then having the lot Griffed and dyno'd.....Really want another 10bhp though??  ------------- current;2001mille,2003R,2003Eddy,2012Tuono. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R and 2x2002mille |
Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 20:58
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Posted By: 426hemi
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2015 at 23:52
| 1060 simples. |
Posted By: Coops
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 17:10
| Is it worth fitting 57's and a pc3usb to a unmodded 990 engine? or is it really not worth the hassle for the gains as i already have a Arrows Shotgun system k&n air filter and a fr100 |
Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 18:43
Don't expect a huge gain ..... ------------- |
Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 22:22
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Mine made a difference, lots of mid grunt when setup for torque Hehee! NickyBoy ------------- www.rsvr.net www.apriliaperformance.co.uk www.apriliaforum.co.uk www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk |
Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2015 at 23:05
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Sorry I meant don't expect a huge jump in overall power as Nicky boy is spot on ------------- |
Posted By: tigger
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2015 at 13:40
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i have fitted a PCV with an at-300 autotune and quickshifter to my gen1 tuono - having a dynomometer to play with at work does bring its benefits ;) |
Posted By: Coops
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2015 at 15:31
| Ok thanks for the replies. . Unfortunately it will have to wait now as my mille was crashed last night |