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Topic: NICKYBOY IN TRAINING
Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Subject: NICKYBOY IN TRAINING
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 16:19
I was out on my training road today chasing that elusive scraping noise Hehehe! Big smile

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Getting there lol

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Posted By: Mooro
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 17:04
lol good luck. I can drag my feet all around bends and does my knee hit the ground Thumbs Down maybe i'm getting to old and stiff to bend that far lol

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Posted By: m9rko
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 17:05
You mean your knee on the floor mate?



Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 17:12
My foot is too far forward lol

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Posted By: m9rko
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 17:20
I JUST managed it a month or so ago. Wasn't trying but flung it enthusiastically into a bend and thought I felt the peg hit the ground. But on closer inspection there was a big scratch the full length of the slider Smile First and only time but I hope lots of track riding next year will see it happen regularly!



Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 19:30
Good luck with that,I've been giving it a go today but in spite of cornering at about the same speed as others my knee remains stubbornly well airborne Embarrassed

There were guys cornerside taking pics today so hopefully some shots may look as if I was at least interested in trying to get a move on.
 


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Posted By: jaseyb
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 19:45
Nicky get that arse cheek off more and drop your shoulder down and forward and get on your tip toes also makes a difference which gear your in


Posted By: Ape
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 19:54
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

Good luck with that,I've been giving it a go today but in spite of cornering at about the same speed as others my knee remains stubbornly well airborneEmbarrassed

There were guys cornerside taking pics today so hopefully some shots may look as if I was at least interested in trying to get a move on.
 


Nothing wrong with being airborne fella

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Posted By: Jollygiant
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 20:19
Originally posted by NickyBoy1984 NickyBoy1984 wrote:

My foot is too far forward lol

NickyBoy Big smile
I did notice that yesterday that your feet are always hanging down. You have your heels against the peg!

You should always ride with the balls of your feet on the pegs.

Check this thread out for some style and body positioning hints..

http://rsvr.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=10744&title=the-rsvr-knee-down-gallery" rel="nofollow - http://rsvr.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=10744&title=the-rsvr-knee-down-gallery

(The 1st pic is the best of course!)

I don't really try and get my knee down on the road as you do need a lot of commitment and its too risky on the road. Don't get me wrong I'll crank it over but you have to it steady!


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Posted By: Mooro
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 20:30
so looking at the lean angles of them pics we can all do it. just a brain thing and body position
 
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Nicky ya all but done matey
 
 
I might get the misses to take some piccys to see just how far away iam too   Wink


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Posted By: Jollygiant
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2013 at 22:46
Originally posted by Mooro Mooro wrote:

so looking at the lean angles of them pics we can all do it. just a brain thing and body position  

No, no ,no it's all skill and only a chosen few who can ride better than the Aliens in MotoGP can do it.


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Posted By: A303
Date Posted: 30 Sep 2013 at 01:08
TRACK DAY! That'll learn yer.


Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 12:38
Thanks for all the advice and tips guys, I was back out this morning and was getting MUCH closer now that I'am hanging one cheek off the bike, I've also found I'am now JUST starting to experience little things with the suspension that I've never noticed before too. . . .

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Posted By: Wavestarved
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 12:49
Get another shot of you hangin off and getting low mate, I'll do some sketching for ya.


Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 12:53
Originally posted by Wavestarved Wavestarved wrote:

Get another shot of you hangin off and getting low mate, I'll do some sketching for ya.

Cheers Mate Big smile
My dad took the pic at the top of this page, he wasn't available today lol lol, finding someone to stand around taking pictures of me belting up and down is much harder than I thought Hahahaa!

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Posted By: Gazza
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 14:55
Nicky, line your body up with the mirror, get your body lower and get your forearms parallel to the road, then lean the bike over more, I don't think the Burnham bends are at all ideal as I've never had my knee down on them, too bloody dodgy in my opinion though there are a couple of local roundabouts that have a good surface but you really need to get on a track to do it the easy way, and even then a lot don't manage it, just remember Brands Indy is your local friend.


Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 15:18
Cheers for the tips gazza Big smile

I don't practise anything on the Burnham bends as like you, I think they are a bit too dodgy unless your going down there at 5am on a sunny summers morning lol lol lol

I am going to do as many track days at Snetterton if I can coz believe it or not, it's actually closer than Brands! According to my guide Jolly G, there are some nice fast roads to be played on up Thetford way Hehee!

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Posted By: Ape
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 15:23
Rent a bike for a week or so and use that...you wont as botherd about dropping it then mate...also you wouldnt want to drop that luuurrrrvvvveerrrlllllyyyyy steed of yours.

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Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 15:24
True that, nothing handles like a hire car or hire bike does it Hahahahahaaa!

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Posted By: badboy
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 16:51
Hello fella,just need to lean off some more,the tryes you have will stick,i have them on my 8 & they work really well,if at somepoint you want to meet up fella,just let me know,cheers kev.Smile


Posted By: jimgreg
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 19:54
Nick what tyres you got? Come down and play here and follow you with my Head cam  and we video and correct, also i can film from middle of a round a bout too


Posted By: CRAZY LEG5
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 20:33
its all in the head mate it feels a long way down tho o do ball of my feet on the pegs,1 cheek off the seat and try to look round the mirrors. im still better at it on a 50cc ped tho haha


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Posted By: Jollygiant
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 22:44
The problem with roundabouts are they are always covered in diesel and policemen.

When I had my TDM I was faster though some corners on track without my knee down than some people who were scrapping theirs all the way round. 

You can count on one hand how many times i have got my knee down on the road. Just save it till you get on track the you have more room for error and you know there will no sh*te around.


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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2013 at 22:59
That's exactly what we were discussing at the track on Sunday,on some corners we were following riders who were knee down and trying for their elbows and we had to back off as we were going faster and in danger of hitting them.

As one very fast old timer said " I never saw Hailwood trying to get his knee down and he managed alright"












Still wish I could do it though,I just reckon my body don't bend enough in the right places


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Posted By: Wavestarved
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 00:38
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

That's exactly what we were discussing at the track on Sunday,on some corners we were following riders who were knee down and trying for their elbows and we had to back off as we were going faster and in danger of hitting them.

As one very fast old timer said " I never saw Hailwood trying to get his knee down and he managed alright"













Still wish I could do it though,I just reckon my body don't bend enough in the right places



Same here, legs too short and too old and stiff for knee down shinanegans, that and all the Harley's overtaking me puts me off.


Posted By: CRAZY LEG5
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 00:48
as they say its just gettin down with the kids



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Posted By: adzed
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 06:47
I get both knees down every time I take the Ape out. That oil inspection slot is right pain to see otherwise!


Posted By: jimgreg
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 09:59
Originally posted by Jollygiant Jollygiant wrote:

The problem with roundabouts are they are always covered in diesel and policemen.

When I had my TDM I was faster though some corners on track without my knee down than some people who were scrapping theirs all the way round. 

You can count on one hand how many times i have got my knee down on the road. Just save it till you get on track the you have more room for error and you know there will no sh*te around.

Not wrong there mate, but it does make you feel good when you do it ... lol




Posted By: andirsv
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 19:21
Nicky.......get your arse off and upper body too.....get your head down where your mirror is and slowly increase your speed.....it'll happen


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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 20:26
I'll bear that in mind on the next track day Wink

I'm determined to flatten these sliders,perhaps I'll celebrate next time out,mind you I'll probably be 61 then so I'm leaving it a bit late.


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Posted By: Philly46
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 20:28
Picture whoring time.




Posted By: andirsv
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2013 at 20:46
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

I'll bear that in mind on the next track day Wink

I'm determined to flatten these sliders,perhaps I'll celebrate next time out,mind you I'll probably be 61 then so I'm leaving it a bit late.


You'll be fine mate, get your arse to the rear of your seat (at least a fist width between your bollox and rear of tank). Slide your ass off but keep your upper body in line with your ass (don't twist your torso) chest low over tank and head where your mirror is) and slowly pick up the pace/lean further👍👍👍

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Posted By: WARNZ
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 05:11
What are you looking at in yr pic NB? Apex as such or exit of corner??


Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 09:21
Originally posted by WARNZ WARNZ wrote:

What are you looking at in yr pic NB? Apex as such or exit of corner??


yeah apex

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Posted By: jaseyb
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 09:36
Head up and look to the exit mate


Posted By: Gazza
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 09:46
Always look ahead, so it's turn point, apex, exit but you should be looking at the next point before you hit the first one, as ever it's looking ahead as Jase says.


Posted By: legend88
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 11:35
I'm no superstar rider, probably not even quick by many peoples standards but the best thing I ever did to improve my riding was to buy the book "A Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code and the follow up "A Twist of the Wrist II". There are also DVD's  of similar names. I found the books better but all together they are a superb resource. Keith goes into the dynamics of a bike to give you a thorough understanding of why you need to do things like counter steer to make it a truly natural thing to do. He talks about the minds reactions to circumstances, fight or flight reflexes and why survival reactions are not always the best to follow. Most solo crashes are caused by  the failure to follow the principles Keith outlines in his books and it's rarely about going too fast!

Keith has trained dozens of national and world champions including the great Wayne Rainey so it has to be good - I'm not on commission by the way but it will be worth more too you in lap time than any tuning mod you can buy.



Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 13:05
Oooooo interesting, cheers

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Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 13:07
Originally posted by Gazza Gazza wrote:

Always look ahead, so it's turn point, apex, exit but you should be looking at the next point before you hit the first one, as ever it's looking ahead as Jase says.


Cheers Mate

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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 18:05
Bloody hell,you have to have your eyes OPEN !!

Wink


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Posted By: Wavestarved
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 18:50
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

Bloody hell,you have to have your eyes OPEN !!

Wink


Not completely necessary at my pace.


Posted By: ForzaApriliaRacing
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2013 at 21:34
Its a struggle on the road if your using one side and not both.......... I had a few left knees touch over the years riding like a twatLOL
 
Roundabouts are a good place to mess about
 
My knees used to be in the way on the track along with my pegs boots and fairings Confused


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Posted By: biff
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2014 at 21:17
Knee down on my old cbr600 was ok.... Knee down on my rsvr? Once only. Reckon my legs have shrunk


Posted By: andirsv
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2014 at 21:26
Originally posted by biff biff wrote:

Knee down on my old cbr600 was ok.... Knee down on my rsvr? Once only. Reckon my legs have shrunk


Nah, you'll get it bud.....hang off like a monkey!!!

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Posted By: biff
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2014 at 21:42


Good job the tog caught it...

Ah FFS, photo on Flickr...what am I doing wrong.....

http://www.flickr/photos/64948214@N02/12697807184/


Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2014 at 23:41
Andi, your lean angles are bloody good, that's my goal for this year!

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Posted By: GeoffH
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2014 at 04:08
Originally posted by legend88 legend88 wrote:

improve my riding was to buy the book "A Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code and the follow up "A Twist of the Wrist II".
 
Yeh ok but a bit dated now, but anyway if anyone wants a copy it's http://www.allaspectselectrical.co.uk/02rsvr/TOTR.zip" rel="nofollow - here  download it if you want from my site Wink


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Posted By: Jollygiant
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2014 at 15:56
Originally posted by GeoffH GeoffH wrote:

Originally posted by legend88 legend88 wrote:

improve my riding was to buy the book "A Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code and the follow up "A Twist of the Wrist II".
 
Yeh ok but a bit dated now, but anyway if anyone wants a copy it's http://www.allaspectselectrical.co.uk/02rsvr/TOTR.zip" rel="nofollow - here  download it if you want from my site Wink
Thanks.


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Posted By: GeoffH
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2014 at 16:36
 
Originally posted by Jollygiant Jollygiant wrote:

Thanks.
 
You're welcome Wink
 
 


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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2014 at 17:31
I've just seen that so I've downloaded it too.

Many thanks Thumbs Up


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Posted By: ForzaApriliaRacing
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2014 at 20:35

I always found it took so much effort to scrape both knees od the road

It is possible but I could only do it on certain corners.


On the track I find my knee is in the way

its all to do with different cambers corner speed etc

so many factors all surround this




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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2014 at 20:47
Then try adding in old age,lack of fitness,courage,skill and sundry other factors Cry  and that's my excuse then.


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Posted By: ForzaApriliaRacing
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2014 at 21:11

A very old shot from 95-96 I'm on the Blade Wink



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Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2014 at 23:35
Sweeeet pic

My dad had a cavalier just like that one lol

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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2014 at 23:47
You can almost read what the drivers are saying

F*kcing hooligan bikers,should all be shot LOL

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Posted By: pjroth72
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2014 at 23:50
its funny looking at the pic ive had both of them bikes lol& loved them both ;)

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Posted By: legend88
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2014 at 09:57
Originally posted by GeoffH GeoffH wrote:

Originally posted by legend88 legend88 wrote:

improve my riding was to buy the book "A Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code and the follow up "A Twist of the Wrist II".
 
Yeh ok but a bit dated now, but anyway if anyone wants a copy it's http://www.allaspectselectrical.co.uk/02rsvr/TOTR.zip" rel="nofollow - here  download it if you want from my site Wink


Yeah a bit dated but still valid just like Einstein all these years later and still used to train enthusiasts and racers on both sides of the Atlantic (TOTW that is, not Einstein although I'm sure he's in there somewhere).

That said I'm always ready to soak up information, what would you recommend to look at that is better/up to date?
 




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