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kevinsatu 
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 Posted: 17 Jan 2012 at 17:50 |
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Spoonz, am I right in thinking that the CAN bus between the Multi Function Display and the ECY are the Orange and Blk/Wht wires connected to pins 10 and 11 of the MFD and Pins 28 and 27 of the ECU connector "B"?
Just trying to narrow down the options.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2012 at 16:12 |
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Well, all connectors replaced (immobiliser, ignition switch and left/right bar controls), wiring re-checked (all OK), battery charged and as many connectors as possible protected with MS4 siklicon grease. Immobilser now flashes correctly when bike switched off. Switch on and goes through initialisation and displays as if all ok. Then, after 10 seconds or so, EFI light comes on. Starts OK but EFI light remains on.
Will this ever get sorted??????
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Posted: 04 Feb 2012 at 16:25 |
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Try resetting it by with the ignition on pull out the 2 -30 amp fuses above the seat, don't talk to me about electrics, today just replaced electric window regulator on vw van cables broke, also the wire that goes through rubber boot on door was broken , also found that the switch was faulty would only go up for f**k sake,
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Posted: 04 Feb 2012 at 20:08 |
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Getting the feeling these wee beasties can be a bit of a nightmare at times... especially if they get wet...
 Wonder if anyone will ever do a diagnostic gizmo that can talk to it using a laptop? Whenever my car's having an off day, all I do is plug in & it tells me what's up... I just have to figure out if it's component or wiring...  Hope you get to the bottom of it before the weather gets better...
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Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 10:34 |
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Whooooooo, it's got a memory for faults. Unfortunately it's like mine. switch off and it forgets. Joe, sorry to hear about your veewee lectrics. Sounds worse than mine. The more you look, the more the problems turn up. Tried the 30A fuses. Still the same. Got the drive cleared of snow so just putting on a few more layers before I dive back in the garage. I was so pi**ed of with bike, I didn't put it's duvet on last night. That'll learn it! |
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Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 22:42 |
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Hi Spoonz. No, not disconnected the flapper valve. BUT I did remove the tip switch. When I got the fault code to work, fault 41 gave the game away. Obviously didn't wait long enough for the code to show. It flashes '0' before the '41', as I found out when I kept the switch on for a couple more seconds. Connected the tip switch and 'EFI' code gone. Looks and sounds good. Just got to make doubly certain before I start re-taping the loom. Did find one more chafed wire under the air inlect duct so have to repair that too but, all being well, job should be a good 'un for next weekend.
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 15:28 |
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well, job wasn't a good un. all seemed OK until after I put the last fairing panel back on and switched on the ignition and there it was, a big fat EFI warnin again. Couldn't believe it. Fairings off again, one by one and checking warning after each panel removed. Stiil there with all panels off. Diagnostic code 45 this time. Now, has anyone seen a list of fault codes with anything above number 41? Couldn't find out what this was so poked and proded all the connectors on left hand side next to the immobiliser and warning went out. Sometimes. Started taking the insulating tape off the loom to try and find something but then EFI went away and couldn't get ot back on. So yesterday put panels on one at a time and re-checked after each fit. all good until, this morning did all the fateners up tight and EFI back. All panels off again and warnign gone. Decided to take off all insulating tape around front of the loom and warning kept coming and going as I was doing it. Now all this reminded me of a problem of a year or so ago where I had a similar warning and non-start and had to get recovered by RAC. Never got to the bottom of that though I suddenly rmemebered I had moved the loom inside the right fairing and the EFI light would flash while I did so. But that snet away by the time I'd been recovered and it never came back. So this morning I tried looking around the right hand sid of the loom again and I eventually got to the fusebox area. I'd previously checked the fuses but only by looking at them and seeing they were intact. Took out fuse D and looked at the contacts. One of them pushed back so fuse only just making contact and loom movement causing it to open circuit. Took all cable ties off and sure enough, the input wire and contact just pulled out of the block. Pushed it back in and felt a good, solid click. Fault 45 cleared and EFI warning out. All fairings back on and everything finally normal. The insulating tape around the loom in the area of the fusebox was original and had never been disturbed. During my re-seating of the contact I felt the click of the locking mechanism and it is now solid so I can only assume irt has been like that from new: contact not seated properly. How many more just waiting to reveal themselves? Any-old-how, it seems like I had 2 problems; the immobiliser and the iffy fuse connection. But it is all together and running. All the fairings are back on, the sun is out and the roads are dry so I'm just about to go and try it in the real world. Thanks to all the people who responded and gave me their advice. It is much appreciated, as always. Kevin |
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 17:56 |
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Ah yes. That's why I put up with it
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 18:39 |
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They call it vibration, can destroy a engine
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Posted: 21 Feb 2012 at 16:04 |
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Thanks Spoonz. One to file away for future warning codes. If it's over 41, look evrywhere. Where did you get the info on spurious codes? Joe; vibration? Call a rotax vibratory? You want to try a Bell 47 or Robinson R22/R44. Now THAT'S vibration.
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