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redratbike 
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 Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 08:21 |
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woah woah woah
it’s all been sorted stop scare mongering on that thread regarding dogbone bearings it even mentions Griff found out a bad batch had been supplied and offered to replace it all go ahead and buy the kit from AP workshops there are no issues
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Horseheed
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Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 09:16 |
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Couldn’t agree more Mark, well said mate
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fusebox
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Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 09:37 |
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red is rightlads .....aprilia did supply a batch of unhardened or incorrectly hardened pins that we replaced FOC for any that suffered .....
as for full compliment bearings and the uprated ones we supply (we supply both types actually) i took advice from some who really does know what they talking about from loughborogh university reference loading and applications here and the results were interesting .... both are brilliant and more than suitable, the full compliment are cheaper, hence the OE fitment. however if the OE bearings are constantly serviced and looked after you'll never see any difference, but in the harsh environment of the bike used all year round and ridden in the rain then the thicker bigger stronger roller in the caged bearings are better and have a better resilience ....hence the term upgraded .. i took that persons word on it ....because im not a bearing expert and it makes sense to me !! the bearing kits AP sell have OE pins in them ...always have lads ... anyone wants any confimetion then please fewlls free to give me a call ... its very cool to put to bed any questions or doubts about this kind of thing cheers Griff @APworkshops 01827285500 
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Ice_ken
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Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 09:43 |
That's great to hear as I've already purchased this kit
 and waited over a month for them thanks to our wonderfull customs office.  |
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fusebox
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Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 10:29 |
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sometimes customs can be a pain .....
worth it though !! and thankyou for your order!! cheers Griff |
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IanG
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Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 15:14 |
That's NOT what I said I also said 'I'm sure it's been sorted by now ' I was under the misapprehension that the bad batch were aftermarket when it seems they were in fact OE and who knows how many are still in circulation world wide  My sincere apologies to Griff and those I misled. Although I shouldn't really be shocked as OE ( bought in parts) as well as manufacturers offerings are sometimes
found to be defective or out of tolerance when supplied these days,
probably due to increased automation and the less than 100% inspection
regime now common in the manufacturing industry. I well know the
temptation to sneak in an out of tolerance part when deadlines loom,and
so did all of my past employers,fortunately any of our Nuclear and
Defence related parts affected were picked up by the customers stringent goods
inwards inspection and the whole batch was returned before acceptance so
there was a safety net,but we certainly did it knowingly. I was also aware Griff was standing on his reputation and replacing any defective parts  however in my case as I'd long since thrown any receipts I decided it was my fault as I should have known the part was defective just by looking at it.I've spent my working life manufacturing precision parts many of which are heat treated during their creation and should have tested it. My bad. As the ghetto test of almost all hardened and tempered parts it's ALWAYS worth doing the file test if you have a sharp file. That's even with an OE part,because as we've already seen,mistakes can happen at source,nobody's perfect and it's a PITA when you find out too late. Regarding bearing design types and surface loading all 3 types should be well within operating parameters for our stated use as long as the bearing pin is of sufficient hardness, I decided to go back to OE spec before I discovered the 3rd type, although the ' uprated ' caged ones I had already fitted would probably still been serviceable with just a new pin to bear on.End of apology/sermon  |
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Posted: 23 Sep 2022 at 15:41 |
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That made me remember a past incident many years ago when I was fulfilling an order sub contracted down to us from the American D.O.D. It was for a full suite of tooling for the new H.U.D. and F.L.I.R on one of the blocks of F16 Viper fighters then being upgraded with the latest equipment our customer was supplying. We were well behind on the jobs and it was coming up to the last day of panicking from our customer as the yanks were getting anxious and putting pressure on them and we were still not finished machining let alone sending all the tooling out for anodizing. My employers solution........... They'll never know the difference He went down to Halfrauds and bought up every case of matt black paint they had while I finished the machining,he then spent most of the evening covering everything in sight with the stuff,the floors,saw-horses,everything was covered in it,no mask either. Fool. even decades later there are still traces of it on the walls and floor. As our tooling work traditionally bypassed the goods inward inspection and as it due to be on a plane stateside before we actually delivered,the whole lot was just wrapped and flown off without anyone this end looking at it. Never did hear any more about it but I used to wonder what the Yanks thought of our anodizing. He was also the only person I ever heard of causing a VAT inspector doing on onsite,in depth evaluation to just pack up and leave within a couple of hours.  |
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Ice_ken
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Posted: 14 Oct 2022 at 11:25 |
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meanwhile changed following:
-engine oil (motul 7100 15w50) -oil filter -air filter
-spark plugs -coolant (motul motocool hybrid tech) -Brake pads f&r SBS sintered |
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426hemi
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Posted: 14 Oct 2022 at 12:34 |
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I rate the sbs pads, I’ve got them fitted in a few bikes and they’ve all been very very good.
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Posted: 14 Oct 2022 at 17:07 |
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IanG
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Posted: 15 Oct 2022 at 15:20 |
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And me on both my Apes
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badapple
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Posted: 15 Oct 2022 at 15:29 |
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SBS are very good pads ran them in my trackbike until I fitted acossato calipers and pads which are incredible!
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I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left
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IanG
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Posted: 16 Oct 2022 at 13:46 |
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Having praised SBS I'll admit I've never tried their street sintered offerings as I've always fitted their race sintered and they're awesome road or track. That's only the front though as I think they don't do the rear in race material? From that understanding I've just fitted a set of SBS Race Carbon in the rear of my Tuono to see how that works out,if it needs too much pre heating to work properly it was still worth it as an experiment. |
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