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Spoonz
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Topic: whats better k&n or pipercross air filterPosted: 12 Mar 2014 at 21:26 |
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Don't think there is a lot in it to be honest. Prefer non oiled filters generally myself.
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Spoonz
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Posted: 12 Mar 2014 at 21:50 |
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I had a B & C filter in mine. Not sure if pipercross are oiled but K and N are. Just a personal thing really that I don't like the idea of oiled air filters.
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jjhj306
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Posted: 12 Mar 2014 at 22:00 |
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From what I've seen with regards to k&n (oiled) and standard (non oiled) filters the results on a fair few dyno runs have shown that standard are better. Now for the life of me I can't remember the site it was all on. Oiled filters are ok (in my eyes) in countries with lots of dust.
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IanG
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Posted: 12 Mar 2014 at 22:03 |
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I think Micah over on AF1 shares that opinion,in fact I've yet to meet anyone who thinks K&N are an improvement over standard (apart from the P/O of my bike )
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Spoonz
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Posted: 12 Mar 2014 at 22:07 |
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Ahh yes, BMC that's what I had, not B & C
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Posted: 12 Mar 2014 at 22:13 |
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Standard ones flow the same as aftermarket filters when new but after a while they start to slow down the dirtier they get which is where aftermarket ones come in to there own plus you can clean them
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tapmyhed
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Posted: 12 Mar 2014 at 22:46 |
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I use k&n, bought it in 2006, clean it every year and re-oil. This year will be the 8th time....not bad from one filter, and one k&n oil kit. How much is stock filter? Tenner???
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snowman
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Posted: 12 Mar 2014 at 22:50 |
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K&N in mine seems as good as any,. My speed triple got one also ????????????
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tez83
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Posted: 12 Mar 2014 at 22:50 |
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Pipercross is the one for me as there not a million pounds and seem good value for money, and I have ordered one for my v4
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Posted: 13 Mar 2014 at 07:11 |
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I guess the bigger the surface area = more air volume = less restriction.
I have a K&N in my standard airbox, but just bought a huge square Pipercross to go onto my hooked airbox. If you're using a standard airbox, you're restricted by the mould to go any bigger. Just my opinion though
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Posted: 13 Mar 2014 at 09:12 |
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Definately bigger is better - to the point that it flows what the engine can consume. After that, going larger makes no difference.
I've always used K&N when racing or tuning, always been excellent. I find they are less affected by water if used in potentially exposed areas such as a hooked airbox. |
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Posted: 13 Mar 2014 at 21:15 |
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Would you say that if the filter does get dirty, and therefore start to be restrictive, then a larger filter area also keeps the upper limit of volumetric flow higher than a standard size one? ie a bit more headroom to rely on. |
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legend88
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Posted: 13 Mar 2014 at 23:17 |
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Well yes, don't work on the margins, always worth keeping some headroom, just meant you don't need to go doubling the size (For example) for no reason. |
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Posted: 14 Mar 2014 at 08:30 |
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Honest opinion
It does not matter What you need to achieve is a bigger airbox volume as per EVO kit Or open wit the renegade / hooked kit. Only bonus with a K&N is you can clean it Just an honest opinion :-) |
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Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 09:56 |
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Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 12:02 |
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Sorry Redrat, no I'm not at home today. I can dig it out for you later. I bought mine from Tweeks as they're only up the road from me.
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Posted: 03 Oct 2014 at 17:08 |
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No problem
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