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    Posted: 08 Mar 2022 at 09:05
I'm not sure what to do - whether to add lube of some sort or just try cleaning the holes and bolts.

So I have my forks out and haven't got round to reassembling yet but the last time I did this the bolts were creaking as I did them up. My concern is that with this creaking and kind of jumping/jutteryness of the bolt, the torque will not be right.

The bolts that are doing it are in the yokes and even the pinch bolts at the bottom of the fork legs. Not all of them though.

I did a bit of a google search but as usual it comes back with differing points of view and I couldn't find much either.

So is adding a touch of oil or penetrating fluid or even WD40 a bad idea? Should I try and clean everything with brake cleaner so its all dry after still?

Does adding lube screw up the torque settings because it won't be dry? Are my bolts f@#ked?

Oh... bike is RSVR Mille 03 ohlins.

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Sounds like there is some gauling going on. Something to lubricate the threads won’t hurt but I would check the bolts for corrosion etc. Me personally I would use a tiny bit of grease. 
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Hi Andy, do you think the threads could be damaged? Do the bolts look ok?

I'm happy to pop over and give an opinion if that would help?
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Yeh grease or copper slip? I'll show them a bit of wire brushing too.
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Originally posted by Bladerunner919 Bladerunner919 wrote:

Hi Andy, do you think the threads could be damaged? Do the bolts look ok?

I'm happy to pop over and give an opinion if that would help?

That's very kind of you to offer. I'm working now so will have a good look this evening and get back too you.

You local ish?
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hahaha

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Probably very dry and you can get a bit of corrosion sometimes from the different metals being together, brush the threads clean and a little bit of copper slip and if torquing them back the setting off slightly as the copper slip can cause the threads to over tighten.
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I use small amount of grease on all fasteners, especially in aluminium.
You use a torque wrench on the fork and yokes bolts, right?
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Originally posted by Stevex Stevex wrote:

I use small amount of grease on all fasteners, especially in aluminium.
You use a torque wrench on the fork and yokes bolts, right?

Yeh using a torque wrench.

Grease or copper slip as hemi said.

Makes sense also to back off the torque setting a tad too.
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Yep, be really careful torqueing up lubed threads. So easy to strip them  out. As a general rule of thumb, you can reduce the torque by about 20% and still achieve the same level of 'tightness'. However the reverse is also important, as lubed thread will be much more likely to come undone. If it's a critical part, say  like a caliper mounting bolt, it's good practice to use a small amount of security check paint.



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Originally posted by Tifa Tifa wrote:

Yep, be really careful torqueing up lubed threads. So easy to strip them  out. As a general rule of thumb, you can reduce the torque by about 20% and still achieve the same level of 'tightness'. However the reverse is also important, as lubed thread will be much more likely to come undone. If it's a critical part, say  like a caliper mounting bolt, it's good practice to use a small amount of security check paint.


Forks in yokes is pretty critical. Maybe not quite so critical as break callipers though. I have had a caliper come completely free once. I was extremely lucky not to have the wheel lock up on me.

I'll go very easy on any grease I add.
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