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426hemi 
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 Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 17:09 |
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I put an rcs clutch on my rsv and set it to 18, it’s made it a hell of a lot lighter, wish I’d done it years ago.
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Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 21:32 |
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Thanks hemi for that little advice, mine won't desengage properly, it has an aftermarket slave and the Yoyodyne slipper, but I am sure the problem is with the master, will soon find out. I will get to the bottom of it in the end, but at least I know what to set the rcs master to 👌👍
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426hemi
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Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 21:46 |
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I’ve got a sigma with surflex kit in and Barnett heavy springs as the big bore was hammering the clutch, it’s always been heavy even with the evoluzione slave, I had the rcs spare off of my k7 and thought why not try it, fitted on standard setting it’s no lighter but as soon as I turned it to 18 it made a hell of a difference, can pull the clutch in with one finger now.
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dog78
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Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 22:02 |
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Thanks hemi, my clutch like yours with heavy springs is the same, the R1 is heavy too but a cable clutch, I did put a longer 14B arm on it, but I threw the judder springs out it so may try the arm again, but it has a blipper so hardly a problem.
The Aprilia it almost like the rod is not being pushed far enough, i was thinking of reverting to the old slave or get one like yours. If I take the slack out almost it's fine but as it gets hot it will slip, the answer is in there somewhere, nice to know I got a decent master, just need to get a switch for it, they got them on ebay 30 quid, but it is Brembo 😁👍
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426hemi
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Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 22:49 |
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The clutch pack has just been modified by wratthal’s, they took the anti judder plate out and machined some spare steels I had so I’ve now got an extra steel and friction plate, you can’t buy the evoluzione slave cylinders any more sadly, they’re a nice piece of kit as they have a bearing for the rod to sit on, it stops the fluid going black.
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Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 22:56 |
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Thanks for that bit of advice hemi, I have the stack height correct, but will go through it again till I find out what is happening.
Be interesting to find out what the culprit was, I am very grateful for your help too👌👍
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426hemi
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Posted: 04 Jul 2021 at 22:59 |
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I haven’t had a switch on my clutch for years or a side stand switch, no ignition switch either.
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dog78
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 06:11 |
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Finished besides a fault with the sidestand, it will go in gear with it down, i have spare loom but going to get some else to do it, it really needs an expert to sort out why the message is not getting from the ecu to the stand.
Aprilia throttle bodies off and injectors out into a Sonic bath next, got a radiator in the garage now so can crack on with the Aprilia, July 2018 it was run. Managed to get four rides on the Superstock on the road and all I can say it is savage, went out with a new GSXR RR and nearly took the paint of the front of his faring, i put the old K2s and 1s on of the Aprilia and they are so sticky it was stoning that faring. 10% below oem TC1 is savage, it will wheelie in sixth, think I might have gone too far with it, definitely for track only. Back to my beloved Aprilia factory, throttle bodies coming off and the injectors for a Sonic bath the fuel tank pump assembly out bew filter and and see if the bores are OK. Service, clutch and rear brake to be done on it, then we will see if it runs. Let's hope I can post a picture of the Aprilia factory early next year👍
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 07:32 |
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I love this bike Rich you can't go too far sounds absolutely brutal
 We really need to get a trackday in next year i know you arnt a fan of UK tracks but you could definitely stretch its legs at snetterton.
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 09:42 |
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I 2nd that adam, its a great bike. yand es we will have to do a trackday, especially as i now have a R1 as my track bike
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on my licence it says "tear down the dotted line" so I DO!
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 11:02 |
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good work Dickie
be good to see the aprilia up and running again went to see a griff yesterday he modded my gen2 motor to run on gen1 electrics and rebuilt a set of gen2 radial showa’s i have a set of Oz from Ric and my Hyoerpro shock back i sold Ric then to Cheesy back to me and a couple of other bits doubt it will get done for next year but it’s happening
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 15:41 |
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Yeah Paul for sure mate, we'll get on a open pitlane day would be a great day I'll have to have home advantage though you boys on the yams will eat my little 6R
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Sounds like a plan mate, love the fact you ape vultures pass these parts about
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 17:01 |
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Thanks Adam, i would like to ride with all of you for sure, when i said I gone to far, it is more relying on your skill level, but with the electronics backed off, it is vicious. It sounded like twin sometimes and slow sort of revving engine. But now the engine sounds different, with a proper bark. At 62 which is very soon the 1st, it matches the RGB race bike, my Trevor Nation engine bike, but it like learning again, hurts my thighs just to hold on to it. My mate said electronics is cheating, but I don't agree, I have only been to TC4 and the drive out a corner is like being fired out a cannon. She is very tall as you can see, but you are welcome to have a session on it mate if and we will meet up.. Tbh i quite like Donny, it was where I first rode it on an Aprilia trackday 😂. Tbh the noise that thing makes is unreal but was quieter than the Aprilia V4"s but no more, it is a menacing noise as someone said. I remember Cheesy and twinfam Paul who kindly came to watch, I think it was the hottest day I ever rode in, drunk loads and could have pissed in a thimble 😂. I got a good set of leathers now, so not so worried about hurting myself, and like you said race cut is tight, only comfortable in that position on a bike, tight too. Glad you got a set of air vest leathers mate, a great asset👍 |
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 17:09 |
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Mark what can I say, a friend I met on Af1, total gentleman.
Yeah them 1127 big bores were weren't going to be like the R1s, also I never regret buying it, like you, never been a bike snob like a lot of lads on here. And when i have a go on the Ducati SP at Almeria, i won't mind saying to its owner it is the best bike I have ridden. I can see a nice build coming Mark, I got a few bits if you need them for your build, owe you a few drinks anyway. Meet up next year for sure 👍
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 17:18 |
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Paul so nice to hear from you, we will have to go to Almeria, when I went, I never forgot about you saying ending up in the canteen 😂, but fortunately I only went in there on my own without the bike, it would be a pleasure to meet and ride with you, I hope you are keeping well after what was serious bit of surgery, which made it even more special you coming to Donny 👏👌👍
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 18:44 |
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Yeah a V4 is top of my want list as far as my next trackday tool is concerned ( unless you are selling the Yamaha
 ) and I'd love a rip on yours but you'll have to catch me in the pits or I'll drop it with my midget legs . I rode Donny for the first time this year with Owen blacklines and I really enjoyed it but a lot of room for improvement. Sure we'll all figure something out. Can't wait to get my ACU done in February and get some rounds in I'm saving hard for it and doing 60-70hr weeks to help fund it. The air suits are brilliant but hopefully I won't be testing it.
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 19:19 |
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Adam mate, mine ain't a normal bike or oem, so it would be not a fair comparison, but there's loads for sale.
I thought my progression would be a V4, but when I bought that R1 it was laying black lines for the V4s to follow 😂. To me they both have great exhaust note, but that R1 sounds so different to anything else. The new Aprilias are brilliant, but it makes me think that the Rotax engines have outlasted the V4s. Yes you can have ride on it, no problem and we will be ready to catch you when you come back in. Like a lot of bike forums people always think they have to be biased to their brand, total bollocks because when you are racing you buy the fastest, best handling also reliability. Tbh you would be better of buying a V4 as it has so much not to be improved. At the same time them V4s are no match for that slide control, which they probably have now. If they bought out 90 degree V4 then Aprilia for the road I would be jealous if it, but Yamaha has win a lot this year, but I reckon Ducati will be the ones next year. The Yamaha needs a big upgrade, there's was always a threat of a seamless gearbox, reverse crank that they were the best first to do on their race bikes. The bike I have now is so much different to an oem bike, i could say it was another make, but took a lot of money and hard work to get what i wanted. There's some lovely R1s like mine sale, going cheap too, have a go on mine, and I am sure someone would let you have a go on their V4, then make your mind up👍. Yeah Snet, haven't been there since early 80 and late 70s, but would be interested to come with you Owen, Paul and anybody else 😊👍 |
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Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 19:46 |
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Yeah mate I was only joking the money and time you've put into it I wouldn't dream of trying to prise it away but I'll definitely have a spin.
When the time comes I have a ton of options and obviously not biased I ride a trumpet and Yamaha now but still love this forum and apes and I'm still buy ing and selling them as I know them inside out after working on them for so many years. I've just bought a Gen1 R but sold it on already. Anything I ride on track will feel ridiculous compared with the old kwacka but it's been great to learn on. Roll on next season
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Posted: 22 Nov 2021 at 16:31 |
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silverstone did that for me.
it made some of our tracks seem extremely unsafe and just not built for bikes, safety wise.
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Adam i would love you to have spin on it, it is safe enough, turns very quickly, but you soon get used to that. TC wise I still have five left out of nine so plenty. I ride it on the road in TC2, which is 7 now but I only ride in the summer time. It has been setup by Darren a bit stiff, but it is OK,any softer with the power and could be taking it out on the tyres, my leathers go fo just under 7 kg with the air vest and are all kangaroo besides one panel, yours are probably the same, so that puts a bit of weight on it, but down the back straight at Donny it will take off airborne on that slight rise, but it lands fine 😂. We will sort something out around your season next year for definite 🙌👍
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Ha we were just talking about how we get a bit of head shake on that crest on the Dunlop straight. Imagine getting airborne over it 😲
I'm not sure a few kilos in your leathers is going to make much difference to the R1 held wide open. Honestly reckon if I had your bike it would take me a few sessions to grit my teeth and hold it wide down the straights. The mille only feels slow when you're trying to pass someone and they pull away. Take the other bikes off the track and it goes well I think. Could only imagine what double the power would feel like.
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Hi Owen, ha ha yes the first few sessions it would wheelie over that rise, but in the afternoon it was taking off both wheels in the air overtaking a V4 on the Aprilia day, tbh it was better that way as it you didn't have to worry about the wheelie, but it has come down before the chicane. It was my first go on that bike, my second ever trackday and I was in the inters, but i had it in the wrong mode, 1 I really should have put it in 2 as Dean Ellison told me to as he bought a parts for me from an engine builder. When we went to Almeria it was 2, i experienced the slide control coming onto the back straight for the very first time , and it was truly amazing. Coming onto the back straight with comp slicks on and sliding the back, when I got back to the pits and asked the others and they said it will only come out four inches, i thought I could live with that and after that session i loved it laying black lines out of the corners. It is unbelievable to slide the back in the top of it power range 😂, had a bit if a bad trip, some my own fault and some not. But when I beat that BMW the same year by more than the length of the start and finish straight it made my day, i and wasn't there for any compitition, but he was a right t**ser, we will never go with that group again, couple of nice people who we said we will meet again, other than that i would rather go with mates and even strangers that didn't need psychological help😂. And this time i will get my full days of tuition, instead of sticking to the back of the ex bsb tutor. He was a good lad as he took me around for about five laps a few days later, one day before i was due to come home it made a big difference. This new mapping is going to take a little time to learn, plus all the other mods. But it is time to leave it and ride it now, there's enough for a 62 year old 😂. We will have to see if we can shoe horn you in there, and I only ride race shift, between you and Adam we will have to go to one extreme to another 😊. In the IOM in Bride at my brother's place atm, the back garden goes to the beach, i and am working on his bikes today, he's go two over here, a ZX10R with loads of mods and one of those ZZR1400cc something like that. The place was still standing after two years and three months, we will see how the bike fair after the time staading still. You will love the R1, it so easy to ride and the height be ideal for you we can adjust the rearsets to give you some room, just hold on tight 😂👍
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Posted: 26 Nov 2021 at 14:40 |
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Looking forward to it sounds insane
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 Finally got the ecu sorted, after striping two wiring looms down, and over a 12 hrs shift where we checked every wire going into the ecu, we decided it could be only the relay or the ecu.Phoned VELOX racing only to find out that if it has race tools with flash tune it can be deleted. So ecu went back to Seton, but the poor lad who put the race tools on in the US hit a tree on his mountain Downhill bike and the poor lad passed away, he was only 25 had won the AMA 600s and this year be riding a R1 in 1k class. Great lad Jason R I. P. I and my thoughts are with his family and friends. Flash tune, managed to sort it, but with moving the ecu, cutting the abs pump in half, I haven't had a chance to check it out certain things like the wheelie control that was not cutting in also the modes didn't drop into place like they supposed to but do now . Plus we fitted some new velocity stacks shown below, this ain't on my bike but one my mate built earlier on. They are all different sizes, infact a copy of the YEC one done by Ray Stringer on a 3D printer. Well the stand works now, hopefully I will be able to move the bikes in the garage soon abd get the Aprilia on the bench, which I am looking forward to, been a bit of long time since I worked on that bike. See what happens when test this R1, it's been a long journey and I won't be doing no more, the Aprilia is as good as I can get it and the R1, plus I am just getting to old to work on them like I did 😂, but never to old to ride them 😜.  |
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At first I thought 3D printed velocity stacks looked a bit like prototypes, not finished products. But I guess there's really no need to over engineer them as they're not carrying any load. If they have tuned them to flow well, why muck it up by making them in a different material and potentially having to do tune them again.
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It was a risk for remapping, but according to Ray Stringer it makes it more linear the power and I have a big problem with wheelie atm. But if it works, and still quick a I am not bothered about squeezing the last hp out of it. If i go to Crescent i will lose my rider's aid pakage. It won't be long and I will let you know how it rides. The material them stacks are made from can take the heat and all the stresses it has to go through. Me and Nige were the first few to get the Stefano's stacks on the Aprilia and they made a big difference. The stand was a problem to me as most of my young riding was done on race bikes, so I can forget the stand,which was dangerous for me. I will check it out shortly, I had a feeling the ecu was corrupt too, it happens like my Autotune at 300 on the Aprilia that had the same, but at least they were very helpful. It will either go one way or the other £👍
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