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    Posted: 19 Nov 2010 at 10:08
Morning all, bought a 99 Aprilia RSV on Tuesday. The guy started it up fine when I went to pick it up, he didn't do anything special just started it up and it ran fine. I trailer'd it 30 mins home and yesterday night I went to start it.

It has a Datatool Veto alarm, so I disable it and turn the ignition on and get the usual whirring of the fuel pump. Make sure it's in neutral, full choke/idle adjuster, clutch in, thumb the starter button and... all I get is a clicking sound that comes from around the battery/rear cylinder area.

I also have an 02 RSV so pulled the battery out of the 99 and into the 02 - the 02 started fine with it. Why would a 30 minute trailer ride stop it working?
 
The starter solenoid is definitely clicking as I can feel it when thumbing the starter button, also sounds like the starter motor is trying to turn over because you get that clicky/pushing sound from it but it doesn't crank :(


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Take a look at the tip over switch. A bumpy trailer ride could have upset it  - maybe? Its not the sidestand switch  judging by the symptoms you describe. Are all the cables tight on the starter relay?

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I unplugged the tip over switch and it changed nothing (that should work right?) The neutral and sidestand lights on the dash all work fine so that would mean both these switches are ok shouldn't it?
 
Going to check the connections on the solenoid and starter tonight/tomorrow. Got a feeling it might be the solenoid.
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Originally posted by MarkJ MarkJ wrote:

I unplugged the tip over switch and it changed nothing (that should work right?)
Not sure it should.  Take out the switch and give it a good rattle.  Once it rattles it's OK.
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Checked that last night bob, rattles fine
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Fixed! It was the starter solenoid (battery was fine). I think one of the connectors has got a bit too much corrosion on as I bridged the gap of the threads with a screwdriver and got nothing. Un-screwed one of the terminals and touched the other with it and it sprung into life Thumbs Up
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Thumbs Up Nice one.
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Ugh! Still sort of have a problem. The bike starts up fine all the time if I just touch the two contacts together, so the problem definitely lies around the solenoid area. However, I took the solenoid off the 02 RSV which definitely works and put it on the 99 and still had the same problem! Put it back on the 02 and the 02 starts up fine.

What could that be? Does my 99 require a bit more juice to start which the working solenoid can't provide? Both solenoids give a good click when I thumb the starter button. I'm tempted to buy a new uprated solenoid but don't want to waste my money. It can't be the thick leads if the starter motor turns over when they are manually touched together, can it?
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most solenoids will fit ...........you really want a higer watts than standard ............I used a yamaha super tenere which I guess is a twin ...fits no mod needed
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