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Kangol 
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 Topic: Non starting bike.Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 14:58 |
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Hi iam new to this forum i own a aprilla rsv millie 1000 2002 which I have owned for about six months.Alls been well whilst now weather's been fine it's now it is cold it won't start.I have fitted a new battery and kept it on a opimate charger which is keeping 12.9 volts.I have also fitted a custom blue flame exhaust and a piper cross air filter and i brought eprom race chip haven't fitted yet.Any help or pointers would be very welcome yours kangol.
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Bladerunner919
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Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 15:01 |
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What is actually the problem? Not turning over, spinning but not starting, etc?
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Kangol
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Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 15:42 |
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The engine is turning over and i get a couple puffs of smoke from the exhaust and that's it.Would the petrol being six months old be causing the problem.I have only multi cylinder japanese bikes and a mv agusta which have never been hard to start also it displays a cold message on the clockst ankyou for your reply kangol
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Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 16:16 |
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Sounds a bit like it’s flooded?
The fuel should be fine unless it has a lot of water in it perhaps from blocked breather pipes. Cold engine…Ignition on, fast idle on full, thumb the starter but do not attempt to use ANY throttle. |
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Kangol
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Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 18:05 |
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Thank you Wigginsjp I will try tomorrow and let you know if fires and runs.
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Posted: 22 Jan 2022 at 20:05 |
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I got my first Mille R about 18 months ago and she was just plain difficult to start.
If she fired and stalled then game over - no amount of cranking or everstart would start it and I had to leave it an hour and start again. Probably flooded. Suggest a fresh battery - lots of views on battery types but get the 200cca version. The AP workshops starter upgrade kit is worth a thought too, bigger cables and relay means more muscle to the starter. Other things to consider, fresh plugs made a big difference and make sure there’s nothing obviously wrong - split hoses and so on. |
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Kangol
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Posted: 23 Jan 2022 at 08:49 |
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Thank you jjw I will have a look for any damages to hoses the thing it runs when warm but this cold spell seems to have killed it.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2022 at 09:46 |
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does it live outside or in a garage ? i find they dont like living outside
or try the wide open throttle trick
this clears a flooded engine hopefully and starts with a bang literally do not attempt to keep starting if the battery is running low as you’ll end up screwing up the starter sprag clutch as the battery runs low it can’t push the pistons over the top of the compression stroke and basically forces them back down the sprag only works one way and this kills the sprag .. the injectors need 10.5 volts to fire too so i’d the voltage is dropping it will never start
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Kangol
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Posted: 23 Jan 2022 at 14:58 |
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Hi almost fired do you turn the fast idle towards the front wheel haynes manual doesn't say.And on the dash a diag message has popped up saying "1" ..what does this mean?.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2022 at 18:42 |
You probably have the diagnostic connection plugged in under the seat. When in diag mode the dash displays the throttle sensor position. If you move the throttle you will see the numbers change. You need to unplug it ( single bullet connect on right side of subframe.) The fast idle is at min when rotated forward and max backwards towards the rider.
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Kangol
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Posted: 23 Jan 2022 at 19:21 |
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Thankyou spoonz I had tuned towards the front tyre what colour wire is diagnostic sender I am looking for again thank you.
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Posted: 23 Jan 2022 at 19:35 |
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Posted: 23 Jan 2022 at 20:01 |
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Again thankyou spoonz I have a look when I get in from work thanks for the helpful advice that I have been given by this forum
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Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 07:26 |
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Good morning was unable to find the blue wire with the bullet connector so bike still not running I think I brought a bit of a dud spoonz and is still displaying diag 1 i think I might leave it until the summer.
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Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 09:07 |
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Don't give up just yet! Perhaps there's a forum member nearby that can come and have a look - where are you?
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Kangol
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Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 12:08 |
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Ah cheers mate I live in bexleyheath kent just off the A2 5 minutes from the black Prince turn off post code is DA6 7QE.
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Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 13:31 |
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get the battery fully charged, get your tools ready
and then pass me your phone number i can drop by one evening tonight , tomorrow , thursday how does that sound ?
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Kangol
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Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 14:03 |
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Thankyou redratbike see you Thursday night if that's ok with you my number is 07510058051 my names kev I will have the kettle on
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Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 15:32 |
just sent you a text message
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Posted: 28 Jan 2022 at 08:58 |
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update from my visit
didn’t want to start on a wide open throttle it popped but battery not quite powerful enough Kev has ordered a new one ytx14 or what ever they ate so fingers crossed we can get it going soon
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Kangol
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Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 08:38 |
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Just waiting now for it to turn up and if fires and solves the problem.Next I will get a new soloid replaced with the 150 amp and heavy battery cables.Thank you to everybody who replied to my post and to mick who spent two kours trying to get running
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Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 11:02 |
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You're lucky to have someone like Mark nearby - just shows the great camaraderie on the forum!
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Kangol
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Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 15:15 |
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How do I post photos on the forum.
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Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 18:47 |
If your not a Premium member you need an external upload space to put your pictures on. There are free ones on the net. Method 1 Once you have uploaded the pics click the add image in the posting menu (icon with picture of a tree) and paste in the url of the image you want to display. (www.Photobucket\yourname\bike.jpg for example) If the url is correct the picture will appear in the preview window and then hit ok and it will add to your post. Method 2 Or the fast way is to use html - [img] then add you picture url and close it with the same html tag but put a / in front of the img inside the brackets. - open square Brackets /img close square brackets (can't type it exactly or it will think i am adding pic and not display the text) |
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Kangol
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Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 19:13 |
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Cheers spoonz i will try and upload a picture of my bike on the forum.
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