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    Posted: 21 May 2021 at 11:31

What a cracking couple of days at Cadwell last week! My first open pitlane trackday and I was a little bit nervous to go out with the fast boys but me and the little 6R held our own and I learnt a lot following some much faster riders. Also my first time out on slicks and although not a full blown race slick the metzeler TD slick was equally as good if not a touch better than the SC1 supercorsa tyres I previously ran. Bike was faultless, sun was out and a little show off photo over the mountain. Snetterton open pitlane on the 3rd can't wait. 
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https://youtu.be/kQt-PHtm2d4

This was the second day when my mates turned up and I went out to play with them so a little slower pace but I caught this nasty crash on my camara. I slow because there's a lot of traffic ahead and give plenty of room around the outside but the white bike who doesn't gets taken out! 
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Looked a good day mate! 

Well ridden by you. 

My Snetterton day was so wet EVERY session was red flagged at least once. I managed three laps...including sighting laps (two) and gave up. It’s was pointless totally. 

Not very impressive the bike that took the other guy out really. Track day for gods sake. No need for that. Think I’d be finding it hard not to bounce him around the car park after that personally. Know the risks after all but that was irresponsible for my two pence worth. 

I actually fancy going back to Cadwell after seeing this. I’ve not been since 2017! 
 


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That's crap mate! I don't get it at all on trackdays we all want to ride just stick within your talent and everyone has a good day. Would be brilliant to get out together some day. The open pitlane was much better and I'll be booking those if possible in the future, there's some coming up at Cadwell later in the year if you fancy it? I've just stumbled across myself on another riders camara https://youtu.be/830qQTF8UN4 9min at the gooseneck and follows me until park straight. You can see everyone riding much more respectfully unlike the inters idiots. Nice to see yourself for a change. Then Ryan Vickers flys past him at barn but again plenty of room. I'm assuming you ride fast group? I thought people would be a bit better???
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It's almost 20 years since I've been to Cadwell and it doesn't look much different. Grass was very neat though! Looks like the weather stayed good for you and you just missed getting taken out yourself.

I say every time that Trackdays are far more dangerous than racing, too many people with less talent (And intelligence) than enthusiasm. You don't go five into a corner on a trackday (Or shouldn't) and certainly don't start switching lines half way through said corner!
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Must say that bike is looking much nicer these days Adam πŸ‘ Saw the crash yesterday I think it was but thought it was an inters session at the time. OPL explains the difference in pace between everyone. But still, a little less aggression on a track day wouldn't go amiss. When he came up to the traffic he probably should have hung back a moment to figure out what was going on. At least that's what I do when I see a traffic jam in front of me. 

But then if you wait a minute you end up just being part of the train as people can sometimes take liberties flying by. Into Park is bad for that I think. Getting passed by riders I'd just overtaken because I didn't want to nip up the inside of a slower rider into Park corner. Only to have the slower rider I'd passed earlier do it to me ha. 

Good to see you getting out there doing some days. Riding's looking good. Looked comfortable through Charlies judging by that other lad's video. 

EDIT: Also good to hear you got on well with the TD slicks. At least in Spain when I swapped from the old SC scrubs to the compks they didn't feel quite as sticky as the supercorsas I'd taken off. Still plenty good enough for me, just not quite as grippy on the edges.
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Originally posted by legend88 legend88 wrote:

It's almost 20 years since I've been to Cadwell and it doesn't look much different. Grass was very neat though! Looks like the weather stayed good for you and you just missed getting taken out yourself.

I say every time that Trackdays are far more dangerous than racing, too many people with less talent (And intelligence) than enthusiasm. You don't go five into a corner on a trackday (Or shouldn't) and certainly don't start switching lines half way through said corner!

Its a lovely place to ride mate, trackdays certainly are dangerous my mate who does cars can't believe it he reckons were mental Shocked.

You're dead right there is no need for riding so close which is why the OPL was much safer as you can see in the second link from the random vid I found on YouTube. Sadly I'd forgotten my camara bracket so no footage from my bike until the second inters day but the BSB guys testing were very impressive! Can't comment on racing yet that's next year in Bemsee but I'm really looking forward to it, it's been a must do for many years and I've finally got a job where I can just about afford it.....on a budget LOL
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Originally posted by blacklines blacklines wrote:

Must say that bike is looking much nicer these days Adam πŸ‘ Saw the crash yesterday I think it was but thought it was an inters session at the time. OPL explains the difference in pace between everyone. But still, a little less aggression on a track day wouldn't go amiss. When he came up to the traffic he probably should have hung back a moment to figure out what was going on. At least that's what I do when I see a traffic jam in front of me. 

But then if you wait a minute you end up just being part of the train as people can sometimes take liberties flying by. Into Park is bad for that I think. Getting passed by riders I'd just overtaken because I didn't want to nip up the inside of a slower rider into Park corner. Only to have the slower rider I'd passed earlier do it to me ha. 

Good to see you getting out there doing some days. Riding's looking good. Looked comfortable through Charlies judging by that other lad's video. 

EDIT: Also good to hear you got on well with the TD slicks. At least in Spain when I swapped from the old SC scrubs to the compks they didn't feel quite as sticky as the supercorsas I'd taken off. Still plenty good enough for me, just not quite as grippy on the edges.

Cheers Owen its taken a while but I'm really happy with the results especially as it was a DIY lockdown project with Lily my eldest. 

The crash was inters day mate the difference in riding was vast between the two days literally night and day! I'm going to avoid the inters and only book fast or OPL and mainly OPL as it was much safer and a more relaxed approach having the freedom to do as you please. 

Thanks for the comments on the riding I felt really good, tyres were spot on, fresh from MCT suspension service and a big brake upgrade all came together nicely. Roll on snetterton!
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You getting your ACU carried out this year Adam? 

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No I'm going to get it early next year James I'm focused on getting round all the Bemsee rounds that I haven't ridden yet, need to do Donny, brands GP and Oulton and that's all of them. Have you got anything else planned?
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Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

No I'm going to get it early next year James I'm focused on getting round all the Bemsee rounds that I haven't ridden yet, need to do Donny, brands GP and Oulton and that's all of them. Have you got anything else planned?

Ha just seen this. At least you'll be able to tick off Donny this year then πŸ‘
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Originally posted by blacklines blacklines wrote:

Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

No I'm going to get it early next year James I'm focused on getting round all the Bemsee rounds that I haven't ridden yet, need to do Donny, brands GP and Oulton and that's all of them. Have you got anything else planned?

Ha just seen this. At least you'll be able to tick off Donny this year then πŸ‘

Yep looking forward to getting out with you mate you can show me around Wink
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Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

Originally posted by blacklines blacklines wrote:

Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

No I'm going to get it early next year James I'm focused on getting round all the Bemsee rounds that I haven't ridden yet, need to do Donny, brands GP and Oulton and that's all of them. Have you got anything else planned?

Ha just seen this. At least you'll be able to tick off Donny this year then πŸ‘

Yep looking forward to getting out with you mate you can show me around Wink

Good idea having Owen show you round and not me. 

Unless you want to fall off at the Foggy esses or have two excursions into the gravel at Redgate πŸ˜…
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Originally posted by wigginsjp wigginsjp wrote:

Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

Originally posted by blacklines blacklines wrote:

Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

No I'm going to get it early next year James I'm focused on getting round all the Bemsee rounds that I haven't ridden yet, need to do Donny, brands GP and Oulton and that's all of them. Have you got anything else planned?

Ha just seen this. At least you'll be able to tick off Donny this year then πŸ‘

Yep looking forward to getting out with you mate you can show me around Wink

Good idea having Owen show you round and not me. 

Unless you want to fall off at the Foggy esses or have two excursions into the gravel at Redgate πŸ˜…

Hahaha don't fancy either of those thanks mate. Owen has the pressure on LOL
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Ha well I'll probably be leading the way from behind you. It's 1st September with MSV James. I'll gladly take you up on one of your Redgate gravel trap tours if you can make it LOL
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Originally posted by blacklines blacklines wrote:

Ha well I'll probably be leading the way from behind you. It's 1st September with MSV James. I'll gladly take you up on one of your Redgate gravel trap tours if you can make it LOL

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Originally posted by blacklines blacklines wrote:

Ha well I'll probably be leading the way from behind you. It's 1st September with MSV James. I'll gladly take you up on one of your Redgate gravel trap tours if you can make it LOL

I will have a look certainly. 

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Plenty of time, I know it's a drive by limit at Donny but thought 102 static is similar to the drive by limit?? Mine varies, usually 102 static but blew 99 on the first day at Cadwell then 104 the next. My mates RSV was 112 without a baffle 99 with. 
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It's 98dB drive by at Donny. I took the stock exhaust in case but found bikes were no quieter than you'd get at Cadwell with no one getting flagged. Must be similar to a 105 static I think. Though there's no way I could get MSV to commit to giving a static equivalent. Either way, the quiet days aren't very quiet I don't think. Certainly not as tight as you hear about for Oulton or Snetterton.
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That's good to hear, snetterton can be strict depending on the tester but I'm yet to use the baffle I bought from MHP. 
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That's good. Something I hear anecdotally about 6rs is that they do well in noise testing. Would much prefer to just take a baffle in the toolbox rather than lug around the 75kg stock RSV exhaust just in case. If it weren't so heavy I'd just use it really. Think power is better on it at full throttle and it would sail through any noise test. Shame it's a 2 man carry really..
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What a cracking couple of days at Cadwell last week! My first open pitlane trackday and I was a little bit nervous to go out with the fast boys but me and the little 6R held our own and I learnt a lot following some much faster riders. Also my first time out on slicks and although not a full blown race slick the metzeler TD slick was equally as good if not a touch better than the SC1 supercorsa tyres I previously ran. Bike was faultless, sun was out and a little show off photo over the mountain. Snetterton open pitlane on the 3rd can't wait. 
I am so glad for you Adam, looking good and in the fast, well done mateπŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘. Looks like you enjoyed it very much πŸ‘
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Cheers Rich, it was so much fun we've booked another double header at Cadwell in September! Got an evening session at snetterton on Thursday night, brands on the 3rd of August and Donny with Owen  ( blacklines ) 3rd of September trying to get as much practice as possible  for bemsee next year. How's that superstock monster of yours?  
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Hi Adam, you going racing, I raced with them years ago, you will absolutely love it mate, trackday won't feel the same again after that πŸ‘πŸ˜‚πŸ‘.
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Airsuit is ready at the end of the month had to wait because of my size. I didn't realise that your back was so bad fair play to you mate for doing what you can. That R1 will certainly be a handful on the road! 
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Airsuit is ready at the end of the month had to wait because of my size. I didn't realise that your back was so bad fair play to you mate for doing what you can. That R1 will certainly be a handful on the road! 
Well done Adam, injuries are much harder to fix, the safety of the air suit will give you a degree of safety, our mate on the Ducati is always crashing but thanks to his suit he has been OK, if you are on track it is a must. I need one so i can don't get anymore injuries plus to protect my back and right hand shoulder which is over an inch shorter, but they made the suit so i don't look all wonky πŸ˜‚. My shoulders are the same size and don't drop either on one side, amazing bit of work they done there. 
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Cheers mate I can't wait! Few more exams at work before I get my contract and pay rise then I'll be signing up for the thundersport class. Good luck getting the Gen2 re commissioned you know we all love a good build thread and will help out however we canThumbs Up
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