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MumboJumbo
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Topic: Gen1 RSVR For SalePosted: 13 May 2023 at 16:31 |
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2003 (03) Gen1 RSVR for sale. In pretty much mint condition, 11434 miles and just mot'd this week with no advisories. Owned (and adored!) by me for 11 years, perfect paintwork apart from a couple of minute scratches on the swingarm and one by the rear brake lever - I think they could be touched up quite easily. It's the 5th Mille I've had, and by far the best, only selling due to hanging up my leathers and moving on to something else. These are rare, very rare, as far as I can see mine's going to be the only yellow 03R for sale in the world, so if you've been looking for one this could be it. I'd really like it to go to someone who appreciates it as I have done, that's why it's on here and not going on Ebay for idiots to come and offer me a fiver for it!! It's not cheap, I want £6250 or near offer for it. I can provide lots of photos, videos, and information on the bike, so if you're interested or know an Apriliahead who might be then message me on here. I work weird hours so sometimes replies might be a few hours coming back, but I will respond to all. I've attached a link to the "cover" photo, but as I said I can provide more. Cheers. |
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 01:04 |
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2012 RSV4 territory,
good luck with the sale, its a great looking bike.
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 17:52 |
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Thanks mate, hopefully it'll sell. I take your point about the price, but like I said these are very rare bikes - there weren't many when I bought it 11 years ago!!
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 18:57 |
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I sold my 2002 in 2020 for 3700 minter with lower mike's but you are right they are rare but quite a few for sale, but notibily not in such a good contion.as much a sinlove the gen 1 your bang in 04 999s and other like minded bikes with that price you are looking for the biggest aprilia fan apart from me I'm actually in the market for a clean gen 2 but not parting with anything over 4.5k..
Not trying to hijack I do apologize I asked my 4 brothers if any where interested I been trying to get them on the older stuff.
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Posted: 14 May 2023 at 19:20 |
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Well I'll see how it goes. I'm not going to give it away, I'll keep it and just look at it now and then and try again in a few years when there's none left.
I agree, there are others, but they're all the wrong colour!!!
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Posted: 15 May 2023 at 10:27 |
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of course don't give it away its a lovely bike, going by the sold listings on ebay sionce the start of the year not one gen 1 has sold for over 4k
and it the right colour. i know im an asshole for pointing this out. but it seems like your not desperate to sell, so who knows. like i said mate good luck with the sale, there some proper ape heads on here, im new only getting my gen 1 in 2018 but i love them. |
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Posted: 15 May 2023 at 12:45 |
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late R’s are hitting top prices they may not sell on ebay but are selling go on facebook and ask speedy wheeler and harley both collectors that have recently sold very clean gen1 bikes
mumbojumbo do you want me to tidy up this thread and delete comments leaving the original for sale post ?
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MumboJumbo
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Posted: 15 May 2023 at 13:04 |
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Hi Redrat, it's cool I think people are welcome to express their thoughts. Whenever you sell anything there will always be those who have an opinion on the price - I don't have an issue with it cos ultimately if you don't want it or think it's too expensive then don't buy it.
I'm a little confused about the argument that you could have a 999 or later model RSVR for similar money though, would the same thing go in a discussion over an E-type Jag vs a 2 year old M3? Different things, gen 1 bikes are rare, and mine is probably the rarest model after the Sp, Edwards and Haga reps.
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Posted: 15 May 2023 at 13:13 |
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just to throw a spanner in the works have you ever measured the throttle bodies and checked the chip
does the motor have RR stamped by the engine number
as there is such a thing as a secret edwards model where the factory used up all the parts on the last of the gen1’s
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Posted: 15 May 2023 at 14:01 |
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I think I've heard about this before but to be honest I've not checked.
Maybe it's worth having a look at.
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Posted: 15 May 2023 at 22:34 |
hi mate, i didn't mean to offend, im your target audience for this bike but with the gen 1 if i was going to 6 i may as well go to 10 or 12 and go full Edwards. i have been looking for a clean one for ages but i think i have 180'd on the older bikes as i already have 4 again don't mean to offend its a nice bike. for the car analogy i have a 79 350 SL V8 and a 16 c63s that cost the same, i also have a 01 ML55 but i get what your saying.
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 08:47 |
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To enter the fray, the OP's price is very fair imho. I've owned these bikes since 2002 having had three of them. The 2001 RSV with facelift and big valve engine, the RSVR I now have and the Eddy rep. IMHO, the best to ride real world on road and not on track is the one here for sale, the Gen1 RSVR. It kicks out more low down torque than the Eddy Rep and just feels more balanced as a road bike in terms of power delivery., The edwrads rep is not as rewarding to ride on orad and is more suited to track as it revs higher, and pulls more at the top end. The problem with buying an Eddy rep is 1) you're not going to find a good original one now in mint condition (unlike this RSVR or my own) and you'll be so afraid of scratching or using it, you'll end up hiding it away in the garage to appreciate in value which is what happens to those that weren't tracked or badly modded,
The best and now getting really hard to fin Mille, is without a shadow of a doubt the Gen 1, 2001 to 2003 RSVR. It's also the most reliable and the most comfortable to ride compared with equivalent Dukles which bear no comparison having owned them as well as an Eddy Rep. My Ducati was cripplingly uncomfortable, didn;t handle as well as the RSV and having recently ridden a similar age 900 and a 998, there's no comparison on build quality. The Aprilias are FAR better screwed together, way better finished and way more useable. Anyone who thinks that a mint or even just a good low miles RSVR well looked after and low miles isn't worth every penny of £5 to £6K needs to think again. It's only us enthusiasts who really know their value because for most people, if they realised how ahead of their time, how sublime handling and suited in power to weight they are for real world road riding they are, and what a quality bike they are, they'd pay more. Look what £6K buys you in even a used BMW boxer...not much these days. I don't know about the OP but if mine doesn't sell for the rock bottom price I've put on mine, I'll probably keep it. They'll double in value over the next few years ![]() |
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 11:38 |
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Nice to see that we've all got different opinions. I've had a Ducati aswell, a 95 748SP, which I bought after my first big bike which was a 93 ZXR750, and to be honest that Ducati made me at least 50% quicker out of corners and roundabouts overnight. But it was uncomfortable and not the most reliable bike I've ever had, but it was gorgeous to look at (guess which colour I had!!!). My first RSV was a bog standard 2000 RSV, I had that 8 years and loved it - rebuilt from the ground up with Ohlins front, twin exhausts and a fairing mod and paint job. But this one, the 03, is the 5th Mille I've owned and by far the best. I've fast road ridden them, tracked them, and all of them are so reliable and well built. I wish I'd had a gen2 at some point so I could compare but never liked the look of them, so never bothered. But all good, as has been pointed out if it doesn't sell I'll just keep hold of it - I think in a couple of years I could be sat in my garage with it looking at a 10 grand bike. Or not, we'll see I guess. |
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 12:16 |
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Nice rear ends I must say
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 15:31 |
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who ever buys it will be a like minded aprilia fan, definitely welcome here.
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Posted: 16 May 2023 at 19:38 |
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Absolutely. Aprilias are not just the best bikes...they attract the best bunch
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 09:27 |
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Just my 2p worth, but I've just bought a 2000 Mille R for £5.5k. He wanted £6.5, but I think he was testing the water. Its done 7.5k miles, been in someone's front room for 7 years of its life and the previous owner had had it for 3 years and done 90 miles in that time. It's almost mint, certainly under the skin its almost new, no corrosion, no salt use. Even the tyres look nearly new, but dated 2013! I felt I paid a bit over the top for it, but it's a beauty and they only made them for one year. I've had several Milles in the early 2000s and recently Tuonos and love the bikes and engine. Retired now I have another bike as well so while recovering from neck ache after riding this, I resort to my other, a nice sit up and beg Triumph
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 09:33 |
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I ended up Part -exchanging mine and only getting 3K for it with a genuine 7K from new and absolutely no corrosion anywhere. It was like new under the clothing. No private interest in it at all, not even a nibble due to paint being non standard. I think around what you paid seems to be what they're going for if mint like the OP's but advertised at over £6K is not unusual. As you say, fewer around and one of the most perfect road bikes I think ever made. They were designed to make people smile.
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 12:35 |
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to be fair i only saw it up for sale for a week on here before you part ex’d it
people sometimes have to talk themselves into buying something so maybe didn’t give it a chance ??
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 12:44 |
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True. I may have done the deal in principle but can still remove it from the part ex if made a better offer as I haven't taken delivery of the replacement yet. The dealer I think would prefer straight cash than to have to take the part ex. I had it advertised elsewhere with plenty of interest but no offers. I would avoid Ebay for selling bikes...too many tyre kickers and dodgy types. Sorry for thread drift to the OP. This should really be moved to my own sales thread but I wish the OP every success in his sale...that's a cracking example
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 13:41 |
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I'm quite happy for people to post on here, if nothing else it shows how much love there is for these bikes, so please don't think you're hijacking or messing up my chances of selling it - I've had no interest so far but like I said before I might just keep it yet. But can I say one thing, and I don't want anyone to start throwing their toys out - but the 2 bikes that Sticky and Vee60 are talking about aren't the same as mine. Mine's an 03, so that means it's got the different (closer ratio) gearbox, the black frame and swingarm, the radial brake calipers, in my opinion the better styled bodywork, and obviously the best and by far rarest colour. What I think I'm getting at here, and no offence, is that a similar comparison would be a Ducati 996 as compared to a 916 - both awesome bikes if you like that sort of thing but there are differences that dictate a higher price for the 996. If mine was parked in a dealer's right now, with a warranty and finance on offer, I genuinely think you'd be looking at around £1500 more than my asking price. I've also just been out this morning and picked up a set of original 2003 headers and mint condition standard exhaust "dustbin" so if someone buys it they can go from the full titanium Akrapovic to a standard system, so MOT's won't be an issue (despite me always testing it with the Akra on with no problems). It was MOT'd last week with no advisories, had a new chain fitted (DID 525 gold), and I just did oil and filter and coolant change. So, despite some thinking I'm asking a bit much for it I defy anyone to find the same bike (especially in yellow) in better condition. As I said, I'm cool with people commenting, it's what grown-ups should be doing rather than turning this forum into a keyboard warrior's paradise!!
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 15:27 |
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Yours sounds like a great bike. Mine was identical in colour to yours from new, but the owner stripped the bodywork and had it re-sprayed by Race Paint UK, as he didn't like the factory colour scheme. I had the newer gearbox and black frame on my '04 Edwards rep along with larger throttle bodies and the Gen 2 heads (as effectively that's what they were) and radial calipers etc. They're all lovely bikes and a dealer 18 months back was selling an 03 rsvr and asking £7,995 with 1K miles on the clock so I've no reason to doubt you'll either get your price or better still, keep it another few years and watch prices rise further
Having ridden a 998 Ducati, I wasn't impressed and never understood the hype. It wasn't that well screwed together, and was cripplingly uncomfortable to ride. Lovely midrange punch but my (then) '01 RSV was the nicer bike to ride and was the quicker of the two. I rode both over Snaefell on one way traffic after a TT race, both were pushed hard and the RSV was by far the better riding bike for me. They were and remain oddly under the radar. Ducati are producing the evolution of the V twin in their Pinagali V2 which is a stunning bike, it's a shame Aprilia haven't kept in the thundering Vee twins themselves.
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 15:47 |
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I agree, I don't know why they didn't keep developing the twin alongside the v4, I don't run a motorbike company so I'm sure they've got their reasons - I've never even sat on a RSV4 so can't really comment, but I've been round tracks behind them enough times to know they're stupid quick though! I swapped a 929 Fireblade for one of my Milles as it was dead easy to ride quick but soooo boring!! I always liked the way the RSV makes you work for it, and because it's so big you sit in it rather than on it, but as I said I'm sure Aprilia have their reasons. Ducatis - keep them as far as I'm concerned. Had one, loved it, but unless I could find a 996SPS at below the price of a house I'd never want another one - got a mate with a Panagale and to be fair it's a nice bike but turn off all the traction/anti-wheelie etc it's not that quick with him on it.
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 16:13 |
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I did have a try of an RSV4 and the thing was tiny! Had two Ducatis, a 1979 Darmah 900SS (that thing used to set car alarms off all the time with open Conti's on it!) and a new 600SS in the late 90's. Rode the later 900SS and didn't rate it at all. Fragile engine, being simply an over bored 750SS. The 888 and 851 Superlight I loved, and the later 748, but the latest V2 probably wipes the floor with all of them except I'd take the booming mad character of the 851 over the new bike. I love the room of the RSVs and the fact they're man sized and not little pocket rockets, I like the way sitting in rather than on a bike, especially with the wheel base of the RSV, helps you feel part of the bike.
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Yeah mate, proper mansize bikes - RSV4 is tiny which makes sense when you find out that Max Biaggi had more than a hand in its development.
You've just reminded me about the first Ducati I ever rode, it was my mate's 93 (I think) 900 superlight with titanium flywheel and massive carbs. We used to go out and none of us could get near him, he should have been a racer, but I didn't see him for a few years and next time I saw him he'd put a 996 engine in out of an ST4, first person to do it apparently, and that thing was untouchable by me or anyone else I used to ride with. But on the back of that quick go on his s/light I bought my 748SP, but then went to Aprilias 20 years ago and never looked back.
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Posted: 23 May 2023 at 18:24 |
im 6ft and can get tucked all the way in, i recommend any sport bike fan a track day on a 17 plus V4, it makes everything else seem slow. ![]() ![]() next to the 1199S theres a few nice ones floating around the 12 to 15k mark.
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Posted: 27 May 2023 at 09:58 |
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It's worth every penny of what your asking for it.
I just paid over the odds for my 03 a few months ago but it is a minter 7k mile bike. My mindset was, when I passed my test, I bought an FZR400RRSP and I desired an RSVR over any bike available. I bought one many years later and sold it within 18 months as I chop and change cars/bikes like anyone's business. The yellow 03 with black and gold for me is that poster bike, so I bought it. I'd rather have it than a v4. I haven't even ridden mine yet, its sat on a trickle charger. I open the garge and think to myself "yeaaaaaah" so I did the right thing. In a few years time, it'll likely be worth considerably more than I paid for it. I owned an RSV4 Max B ltd ed bike. That was awesome in every way.
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Posted: 28 May 2023 at 19:24 |
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I saw yours, you posted a link to it on the forum, you 100% chose the right one at the time. I think I said this before but if your happy with the bike then even if it was a bit pricey it's all good.
I like the V4's, and I know they're awesome, but I'd sooner have a twin - in the same way I'd sooner have a Jensen Interceptor than a newer Ferrari or Lamborghini (I'm not in a position to have any of them but hopefully you get my point), to me top speed and supreme handling isn't everything - sometimes it's just being able to appreciate something for the way it looks and sounds. And, if I could ride a bike like a V4 anywhere near its limits I'd be a professional racer and not a lorry driver!! I'm going to put it in MCN this week and see if I get a nibble, if I don't it'll be getting put away again and appreciating in value for a couple of years.
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Posted: 30 May 2023 at 17:57 |
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until the net zero crap comes in and it cant pass an mot. you had any offers on it,
the V4 feels like a v twin i ride them back to back quite often, with the mid corner traction control and anti stopie wheelie and amazing brakes you be faster on a newer v4 than a older twin, well i was/am.
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Posted: 30 May 2023 at 18:01 |
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Net zero will not happen despite government bluster. They're on a hiding to literally nothing. What do you suppose they'll do to compensate millions of car and bike owners? They'll relax standards for existing vehicles and petrol stations will stay open for the foreseeable next 10 to 15 years at least if not longer. That's the politically expedient thing to do and no-matter what government gets in, they wont risk the outcry that this brain numbingly stupid and unaffordable net zero nonsense will cause. Lorries won't be running on batteries any time soon. The cost and environmental impact to change fleets is HUGE.
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