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 Topic: Ohlin fork sealsPosted: 03 Oct 2009 at 09:21 |
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Has anyone any tips on replacement fork seals on a 05 RSVR factory? I've heard of fitting Suzuki seals as an (cheaper?) alternative, if so which ones and is there any advantage at all or do I just stick to original parts? Cheers for any info?
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Spoonz
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Posted: 03 Oct 2009 at 11:33 |
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Suzuki K4 seals. Double lipped instead of single as per Ohlins. (and a lot cheaper)
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Posted: 03 Oct 2009 at 20:11 |
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Many thanks
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andy777
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Posted: 04 Oct 2009 at 23:09 |
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The seals are cheap anyway, aren't they? I was told its the stantion thats are not made to the same tolerances as the jap ones that causes the leaks.
Andy
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monkeeman
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Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 09:15 |
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I replaced my seals with k4 GSXR1000 ones a couple of years ago and they're still going strong 8000 miles later, mine also gets stood for months over winter without a problem, this is what really destroys the ohlins ones and the suzuki ones are fine.
As for cost, ohlins ones are £50, OE suzuki £14. Have a look at this old thread for more info http://forum.rsvr.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=1979&KW=k4&PID=12051&title=forking-hell#12051 Edited by monkeeman - 06 Oct 2009 at 09:16 |
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Posted: 08 Oct 2009 at 21:49 |
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Nice one, cheers. |
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Posted: 09 Oct 2009 at 08:35 |
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£50 quid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I only pay £100 to get both forks serviced at an ohlins center. that includes all seals a few o rings clips etc and oil. Plus the labour for the guy to do it Andy
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Posted: 21 Oct 2009 at 13:02 |
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Where was that? I need to replace mine.
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Posted: 22 Oct 2009 at 18:28 |
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PDQ motorcycles in Taplow near slough just off the M4
Bit far for you though Edited by andy777 - 22 Oct 2009 at 18:29 |
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samurai sy
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Posted: 22 Mar 2010 at 01:27 |
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I have a PDF on how to change the forks seals on ohlins forks, I also have a front and rear ohlins manual if anyone wants it? I bought a disc off ebay with some useful/useless information on it depending on your point of view
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Posted: 15 Oct 2011 at 19:23 |
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griff has the latest ohlins seals in which are double lipped and less than £50 for the seals.fitting is more
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its twins for me !!!!
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rossi46
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Posted: 03 Jun 2015 at 19:41 |
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Try a seal mate first as its cured my leaking seal and only cost £ 6 on eBay . Look at the vid on YouTube got nothing to lose by trying it .
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GARY OBRIEN
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Kamm Matt
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Posted: 08 Jun 2015 at 09:47 |
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get a yam r1 SE 2006 edition fork seal.. as that r1 se use ohlins fork too
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Posted: 01 Jun 2016 at 18:36 |
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There are some stories that 'other make' seals contribute to premature coating wear, if true then the extra for genuine is the long term way forward, also if they aren't cleaned out properly perhaps expect to do them again fairly soon?
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I have had suzuki ones in mine for years never any problems.
You may get problem on high mileage bikes maybe but probably done half its life with gsxr ones in no problems so far. The R1 in post above a good bet aswell |
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Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 19:09 |
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Without question try a sealmate first. I have found there is nothing wrong with the seal. Its crap that gets trapped under the seal and makes it leak . If you get it in time the seal mate removes the crap and hey presto it seals again. Certainly worked for me twice.
It really does work ...! Regards, Nat.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 21:43 |
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Just thought I'd resurrect this thread... Does anyone have a link to the correct k4 GSXR1000 seals? I know AP stock the Ohlins ones for £47, which seems pricey, but could be convinced if it's the 'right' thing to do.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 21:52 |
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Do yourself a favour and swerve both the tight Gixxer ones and even the later twin lip Ohlins and splash out a bit on the super slippery green SKF units if you can find them. Virtually does away with any stiction ? in the forks and seal like champs
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Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 22:07 |
If you want Ohlins seals I have a brand new set that I bought but never fitted. Got them from AP I'll take 35 posted?
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I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left
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Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 22:08 |
I would avoid Suzuki seals if you like your nitride coating to survive. You can buy the ohlins seals from Yamaha for less than ape prices. Just order seals for an R1 sp which has ohlins forks.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 22:26 |
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I love this place, thanks for the quick replies. Will scour the web for SKF seals although a quick search looks like it could be hard. If I have no luck I'll hit you up badapple! Cheers guys
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Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 22:48 |
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No worries
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I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left
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Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 07:45 |
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I think mine came from Brooks Barn iirc which weren't too expensive, and the oil may have been poor...
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Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 08:13 |
Thanks a lot. Any idea of the part number? Looking for ones for Ohlins forks from a gen 2 RSV Factory.
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Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 09:41 |
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And British main stockist |
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Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 10:57 |
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Amazing thanks for this! Watched that video earlier this morning actually, very interesting.
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Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 13:11 |
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Fitted loads of these to RSV’s including my own, a damn sight cheaper than Aprilia too.
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Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 14:36 |
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I used SKF in mine. Whereas the genuine (and pattern) Showa seals would sometimes fail and leak (Bushings replaced, stanchions reground even) never had problems with the SKF's HIGHLY recommended. Dunno how well they'd fare on the Ohlins though. SKF's are very low friction, so should be ok with nitride coatings I'd have thought? |
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Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 14:27 |
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Just for reference (in case anyone is interested) I went with the Yamaha seals and so far am impressed.
I had the Suzuki seals fitted previously and had been unhappy with what I thought was excessive high speed damping. After conversations with a friendly suspension guy the penny dropped a bit. It turns out that TiN coating is hard on fork seals because it is incredibly smooth, this means there are not as many microscopic grooves for oil to accumulate in. As a result the seals run drier than normal which can lead to stiction and increased wear I decided to try swapping out the seals but baulked at £50+ for Ohlins so went with the Yamaha seals 5VX-23145-00 These were originally listed for the 2006 R1-SP but further investigation shows they then became OEM for later R1s (2010 - 2013) Best bit - in stock at local Yamaha dealer and £14.99 for the pair!! Fitted them last night and decided to do a side by side comparison similar to the video above. And the results were . . . . . . . . very similar actually! Yamaha seals seem to move much freer and smoother than the GSX-r ones So back on the bike today and I'll see if the change is as noticeable as I hope Watch this space |
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Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 15:02 |
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Not really strange when you consider that for many years Ohlins was wholly owned by Yamaha up until Kenth Ohlin bought it back under his control in 2007.
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