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albrown001 
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Anyone stripped a Gen 2 RSVR down to the frame? I know the factory comes in gold but I think the bike would look better with polished alloy. Got two options. Swap frame out with polished alloy one or try to save a bit of money and get the paint on my gold one stripped off.
I'm a novice spannerer but not afraid of attempting it, have got most tools and reasonable space in the shed. Has anyone stripped a Gen 2 bike down to the frame? How hard would you say it is? Any specialist tools you can think of I might need and any advice. I'm in Dorset. Anyone willing to help or can help, on the cheap(ish)? Cheers
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Posted: 04 Dec 2015 at 23:03 |
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Posted: 04 Dec 2015 at 23:20 |
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Sweet.
If there is anything else you think of please just keep adding them. I've had the wheels off, suspension off and all the plastic bits so far so not much further to go I suppose  I have always wanted to have the bike with polished frame and I am going to have a go at it now after what you mentioned. I will have to clean out my shed tomorrow and make some space. Will have to put some of it in the front room. Never mind hey...
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 09:07 |
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Polishing will be a pain to keep nice. Powder coat it & stay nice for longer.
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That's the spirit dude...With the wealth of infomation amongst all the boys/girls on here mate there isn't a thing you can't do if you have the tools (and the stones) to just try it, plus you'll learn so much about ya bike. |
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 13:51 |
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Cheers. I'm definitely going for it now. Will start on it soon and the beginning of that will be moving some of the shed in to my front room. Probably have to put most of the bits off the bike in there too as I do it but will have lots of space in the shed then. Will be the most I have ever done to it. I'm really worried about getting the engine out and putting it back in as never done it before on something this big and complicated.
I'm sure I will get stuck on loads of things at some point or another but definitely going for it now. I shouldn't break anything as I am a bit anal for things like that, just a bit worried I might get stuck but sure I can solve it on here if I do. Will keep everyone posted and I'll take some pics as I do it too. I've just had the bike serviced and valves done so will keep all the oil as its new but will just ditch all the coolant. Needs changing anyways, so not lost anything and it should just be ready for next year then. With a bit of luck
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 14:05 |
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Mate take lots off pictures as you go , label all wiring as to were it goes , once your down to engine and frame lift frame off engine . and enjoy , also know when to walk away and leave it for a day or so, lots of wd40 . clean as you go .😀
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 16:31 |
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You can keep it nice and shiny should you polish it by shelling out £20.00 on a kit from perfect polishing.
Keeps the bare polished alloy bits spotless on my ZRX1100 and the ally on that ain't a patch on Euro ally. Or the other option to look at is get it anodized.It's not dear . The plus side is the finish is great and tough .The down side is if you mark it you can't cover it up where with paint or polish you can. Down load a manual as well. Indispensable. Good castle nut tools available from Mr Turbo Tool on Flea Bay. I've got loads off him and he's good gear at a cheap price.
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 21:47 |
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Thanks for advice and encouragement.
Just ordered the swing arm removal kit for my abba stand and a castle nut removal tool for the swing arm nut off ebay (cheers for advice). Oh, and got a couple of weeks clearance to move the push bikes, some other cr@p to the front room, along with the bits I take off the bike to make room in the shed. Well that was the hard bit done Now I just got to take the bike apart...
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 22:27 |
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Cheers guys.
Very important and invaluable information for putting the bike back together. Obviously worried about steering/headstock and the swing arm side of things so any advice on those is greatly appreciated. I do have a couple of work shop manuals to fall back on and read as well now. But nothing beats experience and advice from people that have done it At present I am hoping to re-use bearings in swing arm and head stock. I'll be starting tomorrow taking the bike apart.
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Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 22:30 |
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Lots of photos & try to loose assemble parts rather than just drop them loose in a box. Like the shock & dogbone/ link, put the parts back together so you know where any shims or spacers go.
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Posted: 06 Dec 2015 at 12:46 |
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Made a start. Excited, confident but also cr@pping myself
 The shed so far  The back room so far   PM sent Thanks Mark. Happy with everything so far. But could really do with advice about best way to drop the engine out.
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Posted: 06 Dec 2015 at 13:44 |
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Can you not support the engine and lift the frame off?
Never done it but I would think that could possibly be an easier option Watching with interest as I may decide to do this with mine at some point |
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Posted: 06 Dec 2015 at 14:42 |
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Not sure Ian, I have just ordered the swing arm removal set for my abba stand so I can get the swing arm off.
The abba stand will support the bike and I can still take the swing arm off and drop the engine out. Going to drain and keep the oil tomorrow and dump the coolant and take off the radiator and exhaust pipes and all engine ancillary equipment tomorrow so pretty much as soon as the bits arrive from abba stands I can be thinking about taking the engine out. I am thinking it might be easier to take the engine out first before the wiring and steering off the bike. But not sure if it might be easier to do just as you have mentioned and take the forks and swing arm off first and sit the bike on its engine and lift the frame off the engine. Haven't decided yet. Already decided to drill the rivets out of the engine plate so it doesn't get the paint taken off it when it gets paint stripped/blasted. Will rivet it back on after the frame has been polished. Not looking about getting it super shiny, just the same as the swing arm is thats all. I think its going to look mint when I have finished. This is what it looked like before I started  |
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Posted: 06 Dec 2015 at 15:09 |
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Yeah,those Caramac (showing my age there) frames are a bit gaudy aren't they?
Typical Aprilia shell suit though,I wonder if someone in the graphics dept was colour blind and refused to admit it. Seems a lot of work to go to though if you aren't planning on an engine rebuilt while it's out. |
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Posted: 06 Dec 2015 at 16:42 |
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Just had engine serviced which is why I'm keeping the oil. I don't use cheap oil and its only done 150miles since service. Had valves done, new spark plugs and carb balanced or whatever the mechanics do. I am hoping not to disturb anything and leave most things attached to the engine. So it should all go back the same (I hope).
I had an RSVR which was red and white before this one. It wasn't a Factory but I thought it looked way better with polished frame. You are right about the colour of the frame. I know why they did this as its a sign of the factory model. But not for this Factory though… Can't wait to get it back together and post pics before and after.I just ordered this motorcycle scissor lift from this place. Cheaper than anything in the UK. Thought it might be useful. If I get through this without any problems next thing will be service the bike such as valves, balancing and such. Will have to get someone to show me how to do it though I think.
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Posted: 07 Dec 2015 at 17:28 |
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Up date.
I drained the oil and coolant today and removed the throttle bodies and expansion tank. Unplugged most of the wiring and can see a little bit more round the engine now. Waiting for abba swing arm removal kit and scissor lifter to arrive so I can really get on with it. The wiring loom is falling to bits so will be spending a bit of time tidying that up at some point. Engine is covered in grease and oil. Most likely over time of me spraying stuff in there and some from the rocker cover gaskets. Will need a good was down with petrol I think and then I might cover it in ACR-50 spray before putting it back. Getting closer...  |
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Posted: 07 Dec 2015 at 17:36 |
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Have you thought about a scotchbrite finish, would make it look like a factory racer.
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Hi m8. Not sure what you mean? I was thinking about polished frame like the swing arm. Whats scotchbrite finish? If its worth doing and will look better I'm up for it
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It's a fine brush effect that you find on things like race frames and Harris swing arms and gives a more satin finish. If you are going to mirror polish it be very very careful how you strip it as you can very easily create yourself a mountain of work, if you are looking at having the frame blasted send it to a specialist as thin wall ally can very easily distort when blasted or orange peel when the wrong media is used. Myself I would find somewhere that can Aqua blast as the water acts as a lubricant to the media and you get a lot better finish.
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Cheers m8. Just had a look at harris swing arm images and now know what you are on about. Might work out cheaper to do the frame in that but would have to do the swing arm in it too I think. The sub frame would almost match already.
Might be a nice option that and one that I am thinking about now. Might have to put a poll up on the forum for polished or scotchbrite finish to decide
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Posted: 07 Dec 2015 at 18:29 |
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Further to what Hemi said, be very careful of getting the frame blasted. Had a frame done a few years back with walnut shell that came back with a slight twist, the swingarm pivot needed rethreaded and the headrace was oval. Utter nightmare for the sake of saving time. After that I always paint strip by hand with various grades of Scotchbrite flap discs. Takes much longer but patience pays off with a perfect surface for polish or respray.
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It is a problem with blasting , we have 6 blasters at work 2 inox, 2 aluminium and 2 glass bead so I have done my share of blasting and it is great for stress relieving metal, as said earlier if you are looking at blasting it take a look at the aqua blasting as it is a lot gentler and gives a more polished finish and find a specialist in it or you will have an expensive piece of scrap.
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Can you guys have a look at this place for me please? They advertise a grit blast cabinet which works on a vacuum and also aqua blasting. Is this the aqua blasting what you are on about? Would the vacuum blasting be better than aqua blasting for polishing afterwards? Cheers |
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Vacuum blasting is still using just the grit where Aqua it is suspended in the water and gives a finer finish, me personally I would use Aqua but at the end of the day it's your frame and choice.
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It does blast but it takes longer as it is a lot less aggressive which is why you get a shinier finish as the media is suspended.
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What about soda blasting? Apparently it gives a sealed satin like finish that doesn't need clear coat afterwards.
Not sure were you'd find it though,I came across it somewhere online last week,pity I didn't make a note of where. |
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It gives a very similar finish to Aqua blast depending on which size media they use in the water.
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I'm no know it all on the subject of blasting.
Out of the three if i was blasting aluminium,my self i would use aqua. The finish is 2/3rds of the way to polish. Is the standard finish paint or anodize ? Any how.If you eat take away food ,save the plastic containers to put your small part's ,nuts and bolts in. Label them up with a felt marker. That way you don't forget whats what and you know where it goes. Saves them getting booted everywhere too. |
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Cheers for advice on takeaways
Done that. She's not happy about the back room. But she is happy about the space now in the bottom draw in the kitchen. I pinched all the containers |
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