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    Posted: 22 Oct 2015 at 15:18
well i finally had some free time today to stert stripping the bike

So it went from this before TT



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to this Big off at the TT



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could only reuse these panels and the 2 small triangle black panels inside the side fairings


All these are damaged and not repairable including the petrol tank


Now it looks like this.....just a side stand and clip on to fit ...its running but has a water leak that i now need to find...should be easy with no bodywork





Good,news no water leak......the other day something was running out bellypan when it had been running for a while.


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Loving the toolkit Mark.  Thumbs Up
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Only ever need 3 tools....hammer, bigger hammer and a fookin big hammer !!
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Originally posted by Ape Ape wrote:

Only ever need 3 tools....hammer, bigger hammer and a fookin big hammer !!
 
Agreed but a rusty hammer shows a complete lack of respect for the patient.
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i put that there to take your eyes off my weeds lol 

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So only bit of frame damage is this by the headstock where a rivnut has been pulled and.a.couple.of.marks.further down




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i'm doing this on my phone guys hence the stop start posts...sorry

So got an EFI error on the screenso found a snapped /pulled wire from this sensor..air temperature?

As you can see i have traced it back into theloom behind the petrol tank and have cut back the protective sheathinv but i cant find the other end .....should it go in this dodgy looking splice\joint?


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Hi Mark. I got home tonight in a good mood and seeing your bike again has just done me in. I shouldn't have feelings for things made of metal LOL
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Hey Rattus ,you'd be fair motoring at that point ,could be wrong but it looks to be around the or just before the Veranda/Bungalow section.
Bet that may you wince.
Has the rivnut put an impression in the aluminium ?
What's the plan of attack ?
Are you going to re work the frame there ?
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Good luck RR. You have a busy winter ahead.
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Mark I have probably got a couple of bits and pieces in the shed if they are any use mate. I will have a look and see what's in there. Will not be any big panels but might have a clock cover, rear light surround .... That sort of stuff. If you want them mate they are yours, just pay a few pennies for postage
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Originally posted by Slackey Slackey wrote:

Mark I have probably got a couple of bits and pieces in the shed if they are any use mate. I will have a look and see what's in there. Will not be any big panels but might have a clock cover, rear light surround .... That sort of stuff. If you want them mate they are yours, just pay a few pennies for postage
sounds good slackey let me know and I'll ping some postage over

I have the majority of a black bodykit to get me back on the road .

just missing a front mudguard ,rear light surround,...I have a nosecone but it has been trimmed for high bars ..oh and the heads ight has a scratch right across it and a crack...shame you can't just buy the plastic lens.



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Originally posted by Shyted Shyted wrote:

Hey Rattus ,you'd be fair motoring at that point ,could be wrong but it looks to be around the or just before the Veranda/Bungalow section.
Bet that may you wince.
Has the rivnut put an impression in the aluminium ?
What's the plan of attack ?
Are you going to re work the frame there ?
Ted.



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in the picture the bike is facing the wrong way and is pointing back towards Ramsey .

As for the frame ...where the airduct was ripped off its pulled the aluminium around the rivnut out so its proud of the frame..can't see any cracks or any other damage should be able to dress it back down?

Was thinking off running the bike into motoliner at maidstone to have the frame checked for straightness...


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Originally posted by Peter Harris Peter Harris wrote:

Hi Mark. I got home tonight in a good mood and seeing your bike again has just done me in. I shouldn't have feelings for things made of metal LOL
don't be sad Peter it's only a bike ....it will live again one way or another as a road or track bike


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It'll get there. You had it on the jig? I have to say, all things considered, it doesn't look too bad. For example a mate of mine had his SV650 knocked over a few years back. Every panel damaged apart from the side fairing on the other side, tank, peg, clipon, lever etc etc. Basically everything you are having to replace but after a stationary accident so for a 90mph off she looks remarkably well.
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Originally posted by MountainMan MountainMan wrote:

It'll get there. You had it on the jig? I have to say, all things considered, it doesn't look too bad. For example a mate of mine had his SV650 knocked over a few years back. Every panel damaged apart from the side fairing on the other side, tank, peg, clipon, lever etc etc. Basically everything you are having to replace but after a stationary accident so for a 90mph off she looks remarkably well.
no not had it on the jig yet
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Originally posted by MountainMan MountainMan wrote:

It'll get there. You had it on the jig? I have to say, all things considered, it doesn't look too bad. For example a mate of mine had his SV650 knocked over a few years back. Every panel damaged apart from the side fairing on the other side, tank, peg, clipon, lever etc etc. Basically everything you are having to replace but after a stationary accident so for a 90mph off she looks remarkably well.
no not had it on the jig yet
..Mrs wants me too but it I can't see anything bent


You may not see it. Get her up and running and get out for a spin. It's amazing how odd a bike can feel with just a tiny twist.
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Originally posted by redratbike redratbike wrote:

Originally posted by MountainMan MountainMan wrote:

It'll get there. You had it on the jig? I have to say, all things considered, it doesn't look too bad. For example a mate of mine had his SV650 knocked over a few years back. Every panel damaged apart from the side fairing on the other side, tank, peg, clipon, lever etc etc. Basically everything you are having to replace but after a stationary accident so for a 90mph off she looks remarkably well.
no not had it on the jig yet
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You may not see it. Get her up and running and get out for a spin. It's amazing how odd a bike can feel with just a tiny twist.
motoliner are only down the road in maidstone I'm going to get it checked no point throwing money at it if it's bent.


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Originally posted by redratbike redratbike wrote:

Originally posted by Slackey Slackey wrote:

Mark I have probably got a couple of bits and pieces in the shed if they are any use mate. I will have a look and see what's in there. Will not be any big panels but might have a clock cover, rear light surround .... That sort of stuff. If you want them mate they are yours, just pay a few pennies for postage
sounds good slackey let me know and I'll ping some postage over

I have the majority of a black bodykit to get me back on the road .

just missing a front mudguard ,rear light surround,...I have a nosecone but it has been trimmed for high bars ..oh and the heads ight has a scratch right across it and a crack...shame you can't just buy the plastic lens.



I will have a dig round over the weekend mate and let you know😉
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Guys .... Just before I went to the TT I fitted a rebuilt set of forks and never got them set up properly I had a play but they were way too soft think I can remember the mudguard scraping under heavy braking ....if the forks were that soft and the rubber indicator on the fork leg suggests they bottomed out could this have caused me to lose the front???

Basically the guy braked in front of me I tried to swerve round him and cut back into the corner and slid off


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Scraping on the tyre or fairing as it is connected to the bottom fork leg so can't catch the tyre?
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Sorry to hear about you bike redratbike If its any help I have got a set of gen one fairings if you need them? 2x seat fairings one red needs a bit of filler one black that looks ok. Seat cowl outside all good but a inside fixing screw needs gluing. pillion seat frame x2. Belly pan silver and red. side fairings red and a nose cone with a bit of road rash but has been cut a little for high bars  left and right seat rail covers red 
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Sorry to hear about you bike redratbike If its any help I have got a set of gen one fairings if you need them? 2x seat fairings one red needs a bit of filler one black that looks ok. Seat cowl outside all good but a inside fixing screw needs gluing. pillion seat frame x2. Belly pan silver and red. side fairings red and a nose cone with a bit of road rash but has been cut a little for high bars  left and right seat rail covers red 
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Guys .... Just before I went to the TT I fitted a rebuilt set of forks and never got them set up properly I had a play but they were way too soft think I can remember the mudguard scraping under heavy braking ....if the forks were that soft and the rubber indicator on the fork leg suggests they bottomed out could this have caused me to lose the front???

Basically the guy braked in front of me I tried to swerve round him and cut back into the corner and slid off


Theoretically yes. If the forks were bottomed out from heavy braking, serious front end load entering the corner or the transition from left to right or vice versa and you hit a bump, the lack of absorption would unsettle the bike. A big enough bump could kick the front wheel up and if the rebound wasn't set fast enough to catch it then washing out is a definite possibility.
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Originally posted by Ape Ape wrote:

Only ever need 3 tools....hammer, bigger hammer and a fookin big hammer !!

 
Agreed but a rusty hammer shows a complete lack of respect for the patient.


Agreed...A point missed. RR you should be ashamed having a rusty estwing adjustment tool !!
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Mark I think you should just buy a new bike mate....and use this as a start/doner bike for a cafe racer...go on fella you know you want to.
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Mark I think you should just buy a new bike mate....and use this as a start/doner bike for a cafe racer...go on fella you know you want to.
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