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    Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 19:58
I know the common sizes are either 190/55/17 (currently fitted to my bike) or 180/55/17 but has anyone tried the new to supersport 180/60/17 size?
Any good or not?
I intend to only buy scrubs for the rest of my life as rubber is really expensive and these have started getting common from last year so I am sure there will be loads on offer this race season too!.
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I do the same and they're as good (if not better) than the 55's they replace.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gregorious77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 20:18
Ace news.
seems to be pretty standard to get a pair of supercorsa's for £80 which is better than over £200 new.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote w00dzy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Feb 2013 at 22:51
They do look good. Never tried super corsas though?
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the only way of describing supercorsa's or any track tyre is a weird feeling like somebody is holding either side of you and guiding you into the lean ... just pure confidence inspiring stuff, all a 60 profile will do is jack the rear up a little bit more, making the bike turn in without as much input ... get a damper lol
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What pressures do you run on these?
Found a site that sells them for £80 16-18 laps from new.
Why do they sell them?  I cant help but think that if they are past there best, then why would you put them on your own steed?  If you can answer that, then I'll join the 'scrubs club' as over £200 for a set is really quite expensive!!!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WARNZ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 13:49
I've been speaking too a few guys on Another forum about scrubs, n if u can get a good source,a sstk team with a good budget they will not risk a good race,so they have a good turn around on tyres,but if they're not as listed (eBay) I wouldn't bother
I got 2 sets of racetecs last year from same chap which were wicked,but his not racing this year DOH!
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Originally posted by tapmyhed tapmyhed wrote:

What pressures do you run on these?
Found a site that sells them for £80 16-18 laps from new.
Why do they sell them?  I cant help but think that if they are past there best, then why would you put them on your own steed?  If you can answer that, then I'll join the 'scrubs club' as over £200 for a set is really quite expensive!!!

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i fancy giving them a go Wink
what site are you looking at if you dont mind me asking
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rtomo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 16:53
they only let them go becuase the used tyres wont last as long as they want them too, after the first couple of heat cycles the ultimate grip will tail off, nothing dangerous at all unless your rossi it wont bother you, and if your using them on the road then you will be absoloutely fine, just look for any large amounts of blue on the tyres ... and give them the old finger nail test and see if theyre still tacky, if their blue and hard ... walk away
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gregorious77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2013 at 20:45
In racing they use a set of new tyres for a quali session or race. once these have been through a heat cycle or 2 they will be past their best for racing where they are chasing tenths of a second per lap. on the road they are ok unless you push your tyres to the max I guess.
Also on track the edges wear out first and on road normally the middle so you still get a tyre with loads of meat on it.
£60-£80 a set v's £200+ for new
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tapmyhed Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Feb 2013 at 15:16
I'd like to think I was a 'rossi' level rider, but really I'm just a 'podgy'...which sounds like it if you say it quickly.....quicker than I can ride anyway....so I might give these a go next time I have to change.

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ive just bought at set of race slicks of ebay ... 3 years old but pretty much unused ... nothing wrong with them at all 80 squid delivered ... and it ws bloody next day delivery !! big grins!!
got them today and theyre beautifull ... nice and tacky still and with more than 5 mm of tread ont both :D :D
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190/55 ?  surley 190/50 . ive had 4/5 sets of pirellis now but 180/55 rear they are amazing in good weather i run metzeler over winter im sure someone in the know said fitting the 180/60 will be fine as long as it clears the hugger the racing teams are using them because they give better traction and grip over the 180/55 and changing the gearing offsets the taller tyre so ive ordered my sprockets already for my first set
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I have 190/60 on my track bike, its a tall tyre real tall.  also mine are not a size Dunlop listed in uk. mine are new ex race series tyres from Europe.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RSLee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Apr 2013 at 06:04
My two Pennith worth. Fitted 190/55 (scrubs) to my gen 2 last year, clears the hugger and they feel amazing, paid £65 for a pair so a bargain....but I did collect them.
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I tried I 180/60 supercorsa scrub on my gen 1 the hugger needed trimming and it kept there was not to much room between it and the swingarm and scratching it I took it off after a week
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I use Racetecs bought from the BSB paddock and the only problem is when they are cold, they feel under inflated but once warm, wonderful.
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love to where i can find a set of scrubs, can anyone point me in the right direction

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ebay is the best place mate, i would say i may be producing some scrubs this season but i will be using my tyres till they are dead ... get my moneys worth lol 
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sweet does the 60 over the 55 make a massive difference and what about 180 over 190 .. only ridden this bike with 180/55 so interested to hear what differences it makes
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote m9rko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2013 at 22:23
Trumpet tyres mate.


If you can't see ones you like, call him. He says he always has slightly less scrubbed ones that cost a little more too.

 I went from 180/55 to 180/60, difference is not massive but bike feels easier / quicker to flick over into a bend. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gregorious77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2013 at 08:05
Just purchased 2 D211 120/70 fronts and a D211 190/55 rear and a D212 190/55 rear.
Might sell one set.
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Originally posted by CRAZY LEG5 CRAZY LEG5 wrote:

I tried I 180/60 supercorsa scrub on my gen 1 the hugger needed trimming and it kept there was not to much room between it and the swingarm and scratching it I took it off after a week


Was it that bad? Sounds like it was but have been advised by tash they fit fine?
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im confused  nowas 180/55 and 190/50 are harder to get we have crazy legs saying the 180/60 wont work and others say it will im thinking they have to be as tall as the 190/55 and some seem to use them too not to mention the 190/60 spmeones using do the gen 2 and gen 1 have differant fitments then ?
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Mine did fit but had to mod the hugger a little where the hole is what I did not like was it pulled a few stones round and they would scratch the inside of my swing arm it was a supercora I have I just did not want it to keep scratching it
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If my not sure where my chain was but I had standard chain and 16/44 sprockets
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Apr 2013 at 23:29
For what it's worth I'm currently running a 190/55 SportSmart on the back and compared with the 190/50 Pilot Sport it replaced it's several mm further away from the chain and the bike sits about 9mm higher at the rear due to the increase in profile.

As has been said you need to factor in the gearing difference and change sprockets to compensate for the larger radius and to be aware that a 3mm ride height difference on a racer is reckoned to be a major change let alone 9+.

I'm going back to a 190/50 or 180/55 next time,my bike changes direction quick enough for me as it is without a 60 profile jacking it up any more.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gregorious77 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2013 at 07:50
I thought these bikes didnt like the 190/50 profile?
I have a 190/55 on mine and it rides fine.
I was thinking of trying the 180/55 though but I keep reading the 190 is better for edge grip etc.
Currently selling these.
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simple choice for me im 5 " 7  lol
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Originally posted by gregorious77 gregorious77 wrote:

I thought these bikes didnt like the 190/50 profile?


Some of the earlier 190/50's notably various Michelins but probably others as well were much wider than their designated size would indicate and could end up fouling the chain.

A 190/50 Michy Pilot Sport ( bloody awful tyre) was just brushing my chain but the Dunlop 190/55 I have on now is several mm narrower, and according to Dunlops press guy their tyres are now almost exactly the nominal size all through the range.

Another point to ponder about chain strike is are the wheels tracking accurately?  Some of the marks on the s/arms are not even in the same street and a degree or two out of line could make a lot of difference in chain clearance.
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