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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote blacklines Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jul 2020 at 09:27
Originally posted by wigginsjp wigginsjp wrote:

It is also the most sorted of the V4’s really and after 2017 they seem reliable compared to the early conrod or valve recession models which is , again in line with Ian’s 2009 Tuono being the most sorted Gen2 model as all its quibbles and stator issues were finally put to bed as an example. 

Was going to ask about that. I read about a lot of engines blowing on RSV4s over on AF1 but you don't really hear the same about the Tuono 4s. I think the valve guide issue only really came into effect towards the top of the rev range where a track/race RSV4 is going to spend a lot more time than a road Tuono. 

Good to know they've sorted it for 2017 though as it's one thing that's always put me off the RSV4s. Would love one otherwise for the advancements in chassis etc. as much as anything. Not that I could afford to replace my Mille. Or even have a burning need to replace it. Funny, it's only when looking at other bikes that I get a wandering eye. The bike itself is the last thing on my mind when I'm actually riding. 
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True with me to black lines, when on mine it’s all that matters, absolutely thrilled with my old Tuono Factory Big smile
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Tuono v4’s don’t Rev quite so high as the rsv4 and run steel valves, rsv4 uses ti stems mated to a steel head. That’s partly why tuono valve trains had an easier time.

 I think it was Micah that said that to get the power they went for revs on the rsv4 and compensated for the valve bounce by fitting super stiff valve springs. Hence the regression and valve head failures some suffered. 
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Originally posted by blacklines blacklines wrote:

Funny, it's only when looking at other bikes that I get a wandering eye. The bike itself is the last thing on my mind when I'm actually riding. 



That's where I found myself,I hardly bother doing any mileage these days as I find the pleasure I used get is now diluted by watching out for dozy drivers and camera vans.

Tbh I blame the technology,most bikes are so smooth and capable you could almost go to sleep riding them if it wasn't for road hazards.

This is especially true of the top end sports bikes where you really need to be doing 'go straight to jail' speeds before they wake up

That's why I sat up and took notice when I saw the 1290 SD R tested,that just seemed to be a bonkers bike that would keep me fully engaged at normal road speeds on the sort of B roads I use.

Truthfully though a 250 2t would probably be quite adequate and still be capable of showing up  superbikes on my local roads.

Certainly given equal local knowledge and training I couldn't ride away from my mate on his 250 2t Honda while I was riding my Mille, he had the drop on me in the corners certainly.


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Maybe you're better off with an RS250 then Ian. Or a little supermoto. I think a 1290 KTM is a lot of power for the road too. And it's bigger and heavier than a supermoto. 

But really ignoring dozy drivers and camera vans you're still left with most corners being blind, 20% chance of there being gravel/manure/cyclists in your path just out of sight and then drivers who swerve out to try to block you when overtaking. Road riding for me is rarely more than a gentle pootle. There's so much restraint needed not just with the throttle but also how fast you enter corners.

Best kept as just a nice relaxing ride I think, not a race with your mates. My first track day I went with a group of friends who are all quite experienced and fast road riders. I'd not long passed my test so was much slower on the road. Funnily enough we were all about the same pace round Cadwell which made me realise 20 odd years on the road counts for next to nothing when it comes to riding ability. Stopped being impressed by mph and only really care about minutes and seconds.
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All very true, although for me on track minutes and seconds are rarely relevant,I tend to use a sun dial LOL

I've done my time being competitive on track back in my side car days,now I just treat it as a Volvo less one direction fast road ride in the novice group.

Had a supermoto once though and really don't fancy another,damned uncomfortable things although frequent stops to refill the tiny tank helped.

I think riding has almost run it's course for me sadly,I get more fun out of just tinkering with them now Cry

The KTM would have been nice but I'd probably have been enticed into behavior not becoming.

As a consequence I never seriously considered  the 1100 Tuono in spite of all it's good points as most people have said it's just the Rsv4 with straight bars and no bodywork.

I know that's not strictly true but spiritually not far off the mark I'd guess 

So would you actually track a new Tuono then?   Fair play if the answers yes Clap I could just about afford to buy one but I couldn't justify tracking one.

I'm a firm believer in the ' Don't track anything you couldn't afford to write off' mantra

Horses for courses in the end I suppose,we all want something slightly different.

Be interested to see where you go Beer

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Just seen this posted on AF1 (has English subtitles)


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Very interesting,and very believable as it seems to echo the 44t and others opinions

Notice they didn't address pricing or perceived value for money though

I've just watched the latest 44t testing the Streetfighter V4s against the Pani V4s and things are so close at that end of the market there's some overlap as the opinion was split between the bikes as when it comes to spending that sort of money other questions are asked

By the time you start considering spending £20K on a bike I'm long out of the discussion though unfortunately, the depreciation on £16k was too much for me 

   
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New 1160 speed triple allegedly spotted being tested for next year 170 bhp ?????
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LOL   Just what we need with pot holed 3rd world roads and ever lowering speed limits Confused 
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