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    Posted: 03 Nov 2017 at 12:24
Hi,can this bike really achieve it asking price?
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=182726574038&alt=web
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Nope, not even close.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote legend88 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2017 at 14:01
Me and you? No! It's a huge amount of money but you never know. Someone just might want to stick it away for the future. At the end of the day £14K to some people is just pocket change.

Brand new, 1 mile only Haga anyone?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202080248156

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote constant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2017 at 14:20
There was a bloke selling two sp in the year for 16k both clean low mileage
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Careca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 12:32
Hello , 

I see no reason why a proper 100% Original and unmolested SP   shouldn't make that money or considerably more. I think SP's if you can find one are cheap given what they are and will only go up in value. Great to ride too. 

As a comparison , you seen early R1 values  ? ( 1998-2001 )

The SP was a special very limited edition bike. Allegedly each bike cost Aprilia 93K to produce and they were sold for around £23-25k back in the day. Only 150 were made and how many are left? Most went on the track . I think its a good place to put your money. 

A new R1 is 15K an R1M is 19K and a new Fireblade SP is knocking on 20K . There are loads of other bikes well above 15 K and plenty above 20K or even more. Few if any are as rare as the RSV SP.

To get what was a  very limited Homologation , very special  bike for £14K ,  I think that's very cheap. 

I know 14K is a lot of money, but we are not talking about how hard or how long  it takes  to earn 14K , we are discussing if the bike is worth 14K. I think it is all day long.
When you look at the price of the parts then it is silly cheap. Those shot gun exhausts are £3,427.
Each Cosworth head is £4,365. Exhaust hanger bracket is £710.29 .

So 2 heads and a complete exhaust , thats just shy of £13k . Thats before you start to price up the carbon body work .  You get the rest of the bike for free.

Don't believe me , check it out for yourself.........


All that said , I think there are a few items I would question on that SP.

I have seen a few and that colour scheme is not one I have seen before on an SP. I am not suggesting its fake, but I would want to do some serious homework on it. 
Too many stickers , so makes me wonder what are they covering and will they come off without marking the body work . Has it been on the track ? . Ex race bike ?

It should look like this , but I have heard that some dealers tarted some of theirs up. Id want proof of that .



The Aprilia shot gun exhausts don't have any markings on them so I am thinking the ones on this SP  are NOT the originals. That then makes me question the manifold as they are NOT interchangeable. 
The rear disk is NON original.
The Screen is wrong.
The wheels are wrong .

It does say it comes with 2 sets of wheels and exhausts. Does it include the manifolds or just the end cans ? . 

SP's didn't come with 2 sets of wheels.

They came with :
Paddock stand.
Cover.
Tank stay.
Carbon air filter seal
Racing air filter.
2 Sets of exhausts. That means  Complete manifold, pipes and end  cans. 1 set road going and 1 set shotgun competition.

Thus I suggest that SP requires very careful examination / history check. I don';t think it is particularly well presented either. Its dusty/dirty. 

If you can get a 100% original SP with all its parts for £14k I think you are buying a piece of motorcycling history very cheap . 

Thats just my opinion.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Af1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 12:45

In most cases it's Triggers broom.....it's had 6 new handles and 5 new brushes, but that is Triggers broom.....lol (only fools and horses)

I looked at a ex Loris race bike aprilia rs250 which was ex world championship bike, most of the special bits were missing
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Careca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 12:46
I have just had another look at that SP,

The manifolds on the SP had a sort of " chrome" finish to it, the one advertised is a completely different finish. Id be asking questions. Not saying it's not genuine , but I asking the question.

Also those front disks are not right. They middles/inserts should be black and a completely different pattern , so these have been changed. 
I'd want to know why , because you certainly dont wear out a set of disks in 4 thousand miles over 17 years thats for sure. 

I don't want to blight anyones sale, but if I was interested I find myself asking  a few too many questions on this one and any hesitation or lack of knowledge in the replies, i'd be walking.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Careca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 12:47
If anyone is looking for an SP , I might know where there is one.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote grahamives Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 12:48
I agree that the price is not excessive for such a unique bike, but you can't value a bike on the price of spares. All spare parts from every manufacturer are grossly over priced to cover storage, transportation, etc. I think a magazine built an R1 from spares for an article a few years back a 6k bike cost about 50k in spares.
If it wasn't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Careca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 15:09
I hear you and agree , most vehicles made from parts = a lot more.

I was just using the cost of parts to try and  illustrate  that 14 K was probably quite good value.

The SP is currently worth a lot less than the sum of its parts so to speak.

I also think they have big value if they are 100% standard and complete and have NOT been on  a track.

Whilst I know some sold for £10 K , those were ex-race bikes and had lots of bits missing / non original.

Maybe I should compare it to an RC30  £25K or more, Ducati MP/ SPS or senna edition anywhere between 10/25 K , Yamaha OWO1 start at 15 K , even 1998 R1 with 10-15 K on the clock are above £10 k and they were not rare bikes. Theres one with 600 miles on the clock for just under 17K.

In comparison the SP represents excellent value and its only going to go 1 way in value.
It is rarer than any of the others.

Just my opinion.





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I agree the SP is underated and underpriced when you consider the quality of the parts used but not many people know what they are and Aprilia are a bit of a left-field company, many people think of them as a poor mans Ducati when in fact it should be the other way around. I was out on my RC30 today as it was nice and dry while my very rare 2002 Tuono R Limited was sat in the garage ready for the work commute tomorrow. The Tuono is a far better bike than the RC30 but it'll never ever become a classic, shame.
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What a lovely looking bike that RC30 is ..........I love the colours.

I just can't stretch to the 25K ++ for one.

I would have to ride it too. If I wanted to look at one I could always buy a poster. 

As you have one, whats it really like & is it as good as they say ?
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I've only had the bike for about 3 months and almost every chance I've had to get out on the bike it's been p*ss*ng down so I've only done about 500 miles. I have to say first that I think I'm too old for the bike, if I was younger I'd be riding it every chance I get but being almost 60 I find I cannot wrap my old bones around the bike like I should. 60 miles is about when the aches kick in, first it'll be the back of the thighs and then the wrists. The bike handles great, leant over in a corner it's rock steady, any ripples or even pot holes can be just ridden over and the bike just keeps on tracking straight, you can change position mid corner no problem. On the straights it's so smooth, bumps are smooth not harsh like many sports bikes, I even tried getting a wobble on but the bike just tracks straight and there's no stearing damper fitted either. Maybe it handles so good because the front has been sorted by K-Tech and the rear is Ohlins fully adjustable. First gear is so high you have to slip the clutch a lot moving off or going slow, there's power everywhere so it's hard to be in the wrong gear for a corner. Your right leg gets toasted at any speed under 50mph and the front brake is crap compared to modern stuff. The bike came with 2 sets of wheels, 17 inchers so you can use modern tyres plus the original 16/18 inch combination. It's fitted with sticky tyres at the moment and they are sh*te in cold weather so I think I'll have to change them to Sports Touring tyres when I'm feeling a bit more flush. When I got home on Sunday the tyres were only just warm but if I'd been on the Tuono over the same route it's tyres would be nice and warm and sticky. I don't chuck it around like I do with the Tuono because I'm sh*t scared of dropping it but come the summer and warmer roads It'll be having it Big smile. I'm loving the bike, it's just the price of them stops me from using it to its full potential. Come the summer though!
I bought the bike because I thought f**k it, I've always wanted one and if I don't get one soon they'll be out of my price range and anyway I'll be too old to ride one properly. I think I got it just in time. The Tuono is still a far better every day bike but the RC30, there's just something about them.
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