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    Posted: 13 Nov 2017 at 19:32
Time for a new project I think, towards the end of the summer I seriously considered selling my '01 RSV 'R' in fact I went as for as advertising it !!, I really fancied either a KTM RC8R or a S1000RR, but with a budget restricted to around £6K I realised I'd be buying from the cheap end of the market, potentially problematic high mileage, unloved examples, I did some research on both bikes and even looked at a couple, the research revealed both were prone to problems with the KTM gearbox's, snatchy engine and general poor build dominate the forums you seem to get either a good one or a dog, it seems a bit of a lottery. Even the BMs aren't without issues, electrical mainly but some disturbing reports of early bikes rod bolts coming lose !!My problem was I'd skint myself to buy one so any problems I'd probably not be able to afford to fix them as newer bikes and especially the BM are very complicated and the electrics are pretty much a dealer only fix so even minor issues can be very expensive to sort out. In the end I saw sense and decided to keep the RSV but give it a bit of a make over.
So why 'superleggera' ? well apart from sounding cool it means superlight and one of my project aims was to 'add lightness' so it seemed apt. Superleggera while literally meaning superlight actually relates to a construction technology developed in the mid 30s by Italian coachmakers Carrozzeria Touring, and was basically a framework of small diameter tubes covered with a beaten alloy skin, no I don't propose to rebuild the RSV in this fashion but I'm definitely aiming to get it a little lighter.
So here we have perfectly good and usable '01 RSV 'R',
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I've had it 3 yrs and it's been great, very well built and so far totally reliable, I've tried to keep it well serviced and look after it, it's only mods are FR100 chip, Blue Flame Ti can and a K&N filter, so when I decidered I was keeping it I thought a bit of a fettle was in order.
About 6 weeks ago I SORN'd it and started looking for parts, the plan was to replace all the bodywork with GRP both to save weight and to allow me to bubble wrap the OE kit and store it safely away, I also wanted to increase power a little. Now I didn't really want to change anything that couldn't be changed back, I like the idea of been able to return it to stock if necessary.

This the bike today, looking a little different...
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so far I've got full race fairings/ tank etc fitted lining up the race fairings and dzus fasteners was a pain the fairings certainly aren't factory quality, anyway all now on and reasonably straight next job is lights and final preping for paint, under the skin is a renegade style carbon air tray, 57mm TB's, Edwards tubes, modded collector, Ti Akra can with 60mm link pipe, FR200 chip along with a PC3 custom mapped by PCR Performance all this is on and running, one of the nicest parts is the Brembo RCS 19 master cyl it's just lovely,

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although it does hit the dash at full lock, so I'll have to find a solution to that maybe move the clocks a little. Over the next few weeks I'll be busy sorting the lights out and getting it painted, it will be having a small projector headlight and probably a simple LED brake/tail light this means it will have to have a day time MOT but I can't remember the last time I rode in the proper dark.

Further plans lightweight lithium ion battery, maybe a quick action throttle and of course I'd really like a slipper clutch but it's a fair wad of cash, it's on my wish list I'll just have to see if funds allow, other than that it will be largely just routine servicing, oil filter, coolant, brake strip and rebuild new pads, linkages/bearings stripping and re-greasing finished off with some nice sticky tyres and hopefully all completed for April next year.
   
   
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Looks good, what are you thinking of doing with the paint?
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Along the lines of the Ducati superleggera  simple red and white black wheels.
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The rcs will make a big difference and redrat on here makes bigger lock stops to stop it hitting the clocks.
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How do modded lock stops work? Do you thread the headstock?
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No they have an offset hole so like a cam you can move it to a position to suit

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Yep I see how that would work 👍
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Originally posted by budd budd wrote:

Yep I see how that would work 👍
http://www.rsvr.net/redratbike-adjustable-lockstops_topic24058.html


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Cheers something like that is just what I need 👍
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Good luck with the build looking forward to seeing how it all comes together. The front end looks very R1m with the track fairing fitted.
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Good luck there is another (massive) post on here from a member who is taking the whole weight thing ultra serious, its an interesting read...
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Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

Good luck with the build looking forward to seeing how it all comes together. The front end looks very R1m with the track fairing fitted.


I was expecting it to look more bulbous without the headlight and no stripes etc but it's not that bad and your right it does have a look of the R1m although I think most bikes look similar without a race nosecone. Once it gets some paint on it the look will change, the R1m's tend to be finished in dark colours or indeed bare carbon, the RSV will be a bit brighter.
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Originally posted by bladebod bladebod wrote:

Good luck there is another (massive) post on here from a member who is taking the whole weight thing ultra serious, its an interesting read...


yes I've read the thread, 'speciale' I think it is, it's a mega project and very interesting reading and IIRC the aim is 180kg !! pity most of the pics are no longer visible. Mine will be nowhere near that weight although even now I can feel the difference just pushing it round it feels less top heavy and just more manageable. I haven't measured the weight loss so far but there has to be a worthwhile saving in the bodywork the headlight alone is a pretty hefty unit plus a lithium ion battery is around 2kg lighter. If I can save 10kgs I think it will be noticeable.   
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Looks great budd. I always think that the shape of those 01/02 race seats look spot on and nicer than the standard road going shape.

I was doing a similar thing with the race fairing and small projector headlight, but when the fairings arrived, the upper was too lovely to cut!! (in CF)

So I ordered a road going version,  the manufacturer gave me a blinding deal, because of the other bits I'd had off him. So I stuck an hid low beam and led high beams in the road version with a h/l cover and left the race one unmolested.

The "daytime MOT" is an advisory, saying no lights fitted at the time of test. You have to be home 30 mins before sunset, I think, or you turn into a pumpkin, or zombie or something. I was led to believe that it's either all lights fitted or none at all. So to use a race upper on the road, without a headlight -I'd have to take off, or tape up the other lights. But surely this doesn't apply to you, if you're having a small dual beam projector and small led rear light? You'll have lights fitted, so no need for the "daytime mot"?

The front looks well cool with the racing upper. I've resisted the urge to put the baffles/ears on mine so far, thought it looks sleeker without, but might put them on the road fairing. Can't make up my mind.

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I was speaking to my MOT tester yesterday he happens to be a good mate of mine so it won't be a problem either way, I'm thinking of just going with the normal MOT.
I did quite like the idea of no lights apparently all you're legally required to have is an horn, so you can ride with no lights whatsoever but I think it's to dangerous and I think it would result in constant attention for the old bill.
So it's going to have lights and indicators, mainly for my own safety (have you ever ridden a bike without indicators? it's not a great experience)and a front light makes you so much more visible to brain dead drivers daydreaming along, so even if the lights aren't 'factory' it still has some, if I get a pull I don't think it's something they'll be to concerned about plus they are more likely to me moaning about the 'race' Akra and black visor.



re the seat I was going to fit the Gen 2 seat but the fairings came with a matching seat so I thought I may as well use it, I've also got a CF early Gen 1 seat so I'll probably spray both and see which I like best.
   
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Ridden bikes with no lights at all and no mirrors on the road. Both yam LC proddy rep's and a couple of road reg'ed moto crossers. This was back in the 80's and 90's though, less traffic -not a pleasant experience, as it's like having some of your senses cut off. Still one is invincible when young. Would I do it today? I doubt it. If I did, it would be with some bright led's velcro'ed beneath the upper or something. But then I'd be breaking the law doing so. I'm all for visibility, I find defensive riding is what saves your life though. You could have a lighthouse strapped to the front of your bike and some drivers wouldn't see you. They even pull out whilst looking directly at you ffs! Polite vest anyone? LOL
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Yep .. ye can have the fastest road bike in the world legal
during the hours of daylight .. mechanically motable
plus a horn and a number plate with a reflector bottom middle ..
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Daylight mot for my gixxer, only horn, speedo and mirrors going on it.
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Originally posted by Diablo Diablo wrote:

Ridden bikes with no lights at all and no mirrors on the road. Both yam LC proddy rep's and a couple of road reg'ed moto crossers. This was back in the 80's and 90's though, less traffic -not a pleasant experience, as it's like having some of your senses cut off. Still one is invincible when young. Would I do it today? I doubt it. If I did, it would be with some bright led's velcro'ed beneath the upper or something. But then I'd be breaking the law doing so. I'm all for visibility, I find defensive riding is what saves your life though. You could have a lighthouse strapped to the front of your bike and some drivers wouldn't see you. They even pull out whilst looking directly at you ffs! Polite vest anyone? LOL


Yes riding in the 80s -90s was very a different experince, I had n FZR 600 back in the the late 80s with just a stop/tail light, no headlight, indicators mirrors etc (not really through choice I’d smashed it up and could afford the replacements so put a GRP fairing and seat on it) it wasn’t really a problem in those days much less traffic and TBH I couldn’t give a flying F%%k about other road users back then, we used to ride in a pack all idiots together.
I look back now at some of the antics and wander how I survived, mind you I didn’t got off totally unscathed and ended up with a few visits to A&E and numerous weeks in hospital, I still have the false knee and scars as a permanent reminder of those ’good times’, every time we’d go out there’d be some sort of incident. My sense of self-preservation as changed over the years so nowadays I definitely wouldn’t fancy riding without lights and indicators these and while your right defensive riding is the best weapon against braindead car drivers it doesn’t hurt to improve your visibility.

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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

Daylight mot for my gixxer, only horn, speedo and mirrors going on it.


You're a braver man than me, my bottle must have gone because I just wouldn't feel comfortable without indicators and lights, the chances of getting rear ended at a junction must increase dramatically without indicators or a stop/tail, at least you'll be able to see them coming the mirrors and brace for impact.
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It will be a summer morning only bike and I go out at sunrise.
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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

It will be a summer morning only bike and I go out at sunrise.


and back for brekkie before all the Sunday drivers come out
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Surely even a daytime MoT requires a brake light?
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It`s crazy .. all or nothing for daytime mot with lights .. got one
ye need em all .. can always go daytime mot then rig a brake light
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If they can see your brake light your riding to slow
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it is a bit crazy that's why I'm opting for 'basic' lighting, small (60mm) projector headlight (so they can see me coming), led stop/tail and indicators to show I'm slowing or where I'm going.
While the responsibility shouldn't be on the bike rider to make themselves visible, drivers should be alert and watching what they are doing (not on the phone or slapping kids about) it makes sense to at least show a bright headlight and indicate your intention to stop or make a turn.   
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