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    Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 08:04
When I put bike on rear stand , turning rear wheel , in one position it makes klacking sound. Tried undo main wheel nut and that sound dissaoear. 

But whenI getting closer to 70-80Nm , sound is there again.

Bearing? Or normal?  
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Definitely not normal what condition are the bearings in?
I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left
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For peace of mind and For the cost of a set of bearings I would change them. Drop the wheel out and spin the bearings with your fingers to see if there’s any roughness as the race material could be breaking up.
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I agree with the boys but you also need to check the spacer in the wheel. 
It’s alloy and if the wheel was tightened to the torque specified in the oem manual or Haynes then it was too tight. It would over time squash the spacer slightly. You need to take it out and look close. Griff sells his own tougher versions and can tell you the length to compare. I had this issue and collapsed two sets of bearings at AP before we worked it out. My wheel was out enough so the rear disc bolts were catching the caliper! 

Definitely check 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote badapple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 20:56
Good shout James forgot about that one.
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Stupid question I know but forgive me,you haven't had the spindle out recently and forgotten the small spacer have you?

I've seen it happen (at a track day) by an experienced Ape owner and the symptoms were exactly how you described.

I'm guessing Wiggins is referring to the the internal tube spacer between the bearings?

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Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

Stupid question I know but forgive me,you haven't had the spindle out recently and forgotten the small spacer have you?

I've seen it happen (at a track day) by an experienced Ape owner and the symptoms were exactly how you described.

I'm guessing Wiggins is referring to the the internal tube spacer between the bearings?


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Thanks on info

i checked rear wheel and from both sides I see spacers. 

On both sides bolts (sprocket and disc) are very close but doesnt touch anything
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i just change rear bearings, which seems ok.but I changed it.

One thing.. there is one spacer under sprocked , and one spacer on left side wheel (outside) and one on right side of wheel?

As on this pic, it seems there are more spacers

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Number 16 is the spacer in the wheel. 

You must measure it’s length to check. Even a small amount squashed is enough to cause issue. 

The other spacers are number 8 

So three in total. One in the wheel (16) and one either side of the wheel (8) 


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Also check bolts are right on the sprocket carrier. They can work loose 
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Ok, I got one big inside wheel. Also have one inside sprocket. And 1 on each side outside wheel.

Will measure them today. What are reference measurments? :) Thanks !
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Also, does long spacer inside wheel must be pressed with bearings from both sides, or I should leave small gap between spacer and bearings? 
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The spacer is there to set the gap between the bearings and centralise the wheel, you wouldn’t get your wheel back in the bike if you had a gap between the spacer and bearings.
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The wheel bearings butt up against steps in the hub so their position is fixed.
When you fit the bearings make sure they are fully seated and when fitting the second bearing make sure the spacer is central and not cocked off. The spacer should take up the space in between the inner races exactly. Over torquing the axle nut can cause damage to the spacer and bearings. The consensus of opinion is that 100nm is safe and does the job.
If you're removing your wheel bearings check the spacer for wear and burrs at both ends.
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