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    Posted: 21 Sep 2023 at 20:46
I bought a cross a plane r1 for track days a few weeks ago from pcr performance and it’s an incredible piece of kit but then I got offered this and well Paul caught me at a weak moment.
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Blimey that looks a bit special.
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Oh....is it coming to cadwell next week?
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Yes it’ll be at cadwell, I’m getting a load of scrubs from omg racing if you’re interested in any ?
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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

Yes it’ll be at cadwell, I’m getting a load of scrubs from omg racing if you’re interested in any ?

I suppose that they will only have 200 rear? 
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125/70/17 front and 200/65/17 rear, I’ve been using them on the r1.
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I run a 180/60 on the gixer as its a 750 but cheers for asking. Probably got one more day out of the rear and it's likely next week will be the last until almeria in Feb and I'll put a fresh set on. Weather is looking kind for Friday mate. 
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I hope so, I’ve booked training so want to get my money’s worth.
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so you keeping the cross plane r1 as well as this one

what do you think have you ridden it?

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That's not a track bike!  it's a work of art, 
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The black one is for sale if anyone is interested, it’s a stunning piece of kit and way better than me, the old adage of all the gear and no idea with it and then I bought the other one 😁, I’ve got cadwell on the new one on the 29th with training so hopefully it’ll be dry.
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thats just pure porn hemi, absolutely gorgeous.
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All I can say is.....WOW!!! Another beautiful bike Hemi! The other R1 is a beauty also!...whoever buys it will be incredible happy, I'm sure!! Clap
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I sold the black r1 Saturday morning so some funds are back in the bank, Andy who I bought the new one from came to cadwell on Friday and gave me a few pointers and helped until dinner, he also had a brand new set of dymag’s with new Pfm discs and new slicks in tyre bags that I did a deal on, saved about a grand, badapple was there also on his gixxer so was good to meet him after many years talking on here. The training definitely helped and I finally got my bogey corners sorted which was Charlie’s one and two, running the bike wide over a blind crest was disconcerting but I got it eventually.
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Great news! Did you book the training through the track day organisation?
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Originally posted by Steve750 Steve750 wrote:

Great news! Did you book the training through the track day organisation?

Yes through msv.
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Really good to finally meet up mate and a brilliant day all round. No reds and sunshine ☀ just lost a couple of sessions at the start of the day. 
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I went out first thing, it was interesting on slicks on a wet track on a bike I’d never ridden before, it was good that Andy the previous owner came and gave me a few pointers with the bike.
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Haha yeah not great! I wobbled round for the sighting laps then it was a mass exodus LOL.  That's one serious R1 mate
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Cheers dude, it’s a serious piece of kit, I did think about getting a 600 originally that I could learn on and not worry about to much but that soon went out the window.
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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

Cheers dude, it’s a serious piece of kit, I did think about getting a 600 originally that I could learn on and not worry about to much but that soon went out the window.

im with you on this,
i hired a cbr600 at Silverstone, was laughably slow, hired an R1 and it was like i was finally riding a bike round a track, took the mile R to 3 different tracks and that really showed its age on the straights i could barley keep up with old R6's 

what type of power does it make? i have seen a few come up really short around the 160 mark like the blade of the same year - when i was at MSS with my V4 they said that they are happy if they can get one to 175rw
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Originally posted by JimmyV4 JimmyV4 wrote:

Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

Cheers dude, it’s a serious piece of kit, I did think about getting a 600 originally that I could learn on and not worry about to much but that soon went out the window.


im with you on this,
i hired a cbr600 at Silverstone, was laughably slow, hired an R1 and it was like i was finally riding a bike round a track, took the mile R to 3 different tracks and that really showed its age on the straights i could barley keep up with old R6's 

what type of power does it make? i have seen a few come up really short around the 160 mark like the blade of the same year - when i was at MSS with my V4 they said that they are happy if they can get one to 175rw

My black r1 was 195 bhp on pcr’s dyno and engine wise this new one is the same spec but I don’t have the dyno sheet yet.
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Track riding is fun and everyone is different so it depends on what you want to get out of it. A modern 1000cc+ superbike is going to be exciting and scary but with the electronics looking after you most can go out and enjoy themselves in relative safety. I have been riding on track now for 15 years but only the last 4-5 seriously and I learnt to ride a very old 600 to its absolute limit ( embarrassing many a v4 until the straight LOL) until I felt like I was going to crash big time trying to squeeze an extra second a lap out of it before moving upto the 750. On most UK circuits a well ridden 600 or even less will be quicker than a average rider on a big bike and you learn to carry crazy corner speed which you then transfer to bigger bikes and then you are really moving! I'm not knocking anyone for riding whatever they like on track as I said it's fun but to gradually build your skill a smaller capacity machine will hone your skills and teach track craft in a better way in my opinion. 
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195at the wheel is strong, is that with work done or relatively standard?

my 13 1199 is 184rw with an upmap and full exhaust my rsv4 is 193rw map and exhaust.
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Exhaust and mapping, it’s still got the oe headers.
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Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

Track riding is fun and everyone is different so it depends on what you want to get out of it. A modern 1000cc+ superbike is going to be exciting and scary but with the electronics looking after you most can go out and enjoy themselves in relative safety. I have been riding on track now for 15 years but only the last 4-5 seriously and I learnt to ride a very old 600 to its absolute limit ( embarrassing many a v4 until the straight LOL) until I felt like I was going to crash big time trying to squeeze an extra second a lap out of it before moving upto the 750. On most UK circuits a well ridden 600 or even less will be quicker than a average rider on a big bike and you learn to carry crazy corner speed which you then transfer to bigger bikes and then you are really moving! I'm not knocking anyone for riding whatever they like on track as I said it's fun but to gradually build your skill a smaller capacity machine will hone your skills and teach track craft in a better way in my opinion. 

I was looking at 600’s but pcr is 5 miles away and I’m friends with Paul and he had the black r1 in fully prepared and serviced ready to go so that was it no brainer, I then walked past his door a few weeks later and bam got caught 😁.
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Haha too good to miss! It's stunning. Like I said mate everyone has a different reason for going out on track and I would never say a modern mental machine isn't the right machine just that track craft is easier to learn on a smaller capacity bike. Hope we can meet up again next season. 
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The bikes way above what I need for my speed at the moment but I’m a complete tart when it comes to bling ( I doubt you’ve noticed 😁), I intend doing a load more days next year and I’ve ordered a wind out awning for the van and I’m looking at getting it insulated and carpeted out so I can sleep in it, it’s a really long day driving to cadwell and back in a day, I’d love to do brands hatch and Anglesey as well.
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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

Exhaust and mapping, it’s still got the oe headers.

is it even worth changing them?

MSS told me not to touch the headers on my V4 and i know there ment to be the best in the business but you still have to wonder.

that is realy realy strong R1s always seem to come up week on the dyno, its one of the reasons the silverstone marshals dumped them blokes where turrning up and was clapping them on the straights

how you getting on with the size of the R1 i remember when i got my V4 you said it was too small i think the R1 is smaller its defiantly a smaller seat and narrower.

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The standard headers are staying, you only gain a small amount and I’ll not notice it especially when you’re talking a couple of thousand for them, size wise it seems fine and all the tracks I’ve ridden so far aren’t really that high a top speed tracks, well not for me at the moment.
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