rsvr.net Forums Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > General Chat > General Chat
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Quickshifter question.
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Quickshifter question.

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
Ningaman17 View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2017
Location: Swindon
Status: Offline
Points: 42
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ningaman17 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Quickshifter question.
    Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 09:23
hi can anyone shed any light on what qs is best. I have read to stay away from ignition kill types and also to stay away from fuel cutting supply. Why would griff sell and recoomend dynojet and people say stay away? am looking to buy one this week and not sure what one to get. Cheers
Back to Top
Spoonz View Drop Down
Admins Group
Admins Group


Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North Devon
Status: Offline
Points: 9592
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Spoonz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 10:22

That's the problem with the internet. Everyone will have an opinion and half of them will be based on nothing more than hearsay.


All I can say is I have a dynojet version on my rsv and it works fine. To be honest the novelty wore of very quickly and I rarely use it but when I do it works. The key is correct setup more than anything else from what I know about them. The best component is only as good as the person that fitted/set it up. I know Griff experimented lots with kill times etc and reckons he got the best setup nailed for them.  

Back to Top
Ningaman17 View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2017
Location: Swindon
Status: Offline
Points: 42
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ningaman17 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 10:27
cheers spoonz. There is so much bollocks to read through was easier just asking. Thats is what i wanted to hear tbh the dyno jet looks the part with ap rearsets. 👍
Back to Top
greenman1966 View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 06 Jul 2016
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 90
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greenman1966 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 20:30
I've a Healtech, and the setup is the key.
Plus you have to learn to shift without backing off the throttle. And this is harder than you think. In fact the more you think about it the worse it is.
But, when you've got it mastered. Shifts become seamless.
 
So, whatever works for you. is the answer.
 
The healtech is programmed via your smartphone, which is seriously cool.
 
Dennis.
Back to Top
IanG View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member
Avatar

Joined: 04 Oct 2010
Location: N Wales
Status: Online
Points: 8790
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 21:06
Why do people want these?  If they were racing a high revving engine with a close ratio box and narrow power band I could understand it but an Ape twin,really??Shocked

Sorry,I may be slow as f*kc on the track but even I can change up and down without much lack of momentum and I can honestly say I've never gone through a complex of corners and thought ' Wow,I really need to get a quickshifter'

The advertising guru's and traders must be laughing in their champagne LOL

www.apriliaperformance.co.uk
www.apriliaforum.co.uk
www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk

Looking forward to the next track day
Back to Top
426hemi View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member

owner of the big bore!

Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Location: cannock
Status: Offline
Points: 4065
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 426hemi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 23:31
That's like asking why modify anything away from standard, because we want to and because we can, what works for you won't work for others and because it's just fun dude.
Back to Top
legend88 View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member
Avatar

Joined: 18 Aug 2013
Location: Newcastle
Status: Offline
Points: 5112
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote legend88 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 23:34
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

Why do people want these?


I have this thought every time I hear people talk about them. As an engineer I appreciate what they do and if I was racing and wanted the find the last few hundredths then of course I would have one. However for me part of the fun - as with a car - is changing gear myself. Otherwise you may as well get a twist and go and then you're almost at a single ratio electric motor!

Back to Top
426hemi View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member

owner of the big bore!

Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Location: cannock
Status: Offline
Points: 4065
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 426hemi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2018 at 23:50
I love em, cranked over powering out of corners clicking up the box on track or road is just great fun and do I need it maybe not but do I want it, f**k yeah.
Back to Top
Ningaman17 View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2017
Location: Swindon
Status: Offline
Points: 42
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ningaman17 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 07:47
greenman. Why did you choose healtech? They are more expensive and do u really think they are better than dynojet a very succesfull company that has been going for many years? Or did you get it as it ignigion kill?  Cheers
Back to Top
Spoonz View Drop Down
Admins Group
Admins Group


Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North Devon
Status: Offline
Points: 9592
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Spoonz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 09:57
Not sure there is a right or wrong answer to which QS type. If they achieve a working solution then it matters not.  It comes down to ease of setup, cost etc between types.
I wouldn't get too hung up on it, it's like which tyres should I get. They will all work, there are just variations on how they work.
Back to Top
IanG View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member
Avatar

Joined: 04 Oct 2010
Location: N Wales
Status: Online
Points: 8790
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 17:01
Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

That's like asking why modify anything away from standard, because we want to and because we can, what works for you won't work for others and because it's just fun dude.


True enough I suppose

Still I think there is possibly just a touch of swinging dick syndrome creeping into the mods people do,lets face it ,most people mod their bikes and end up with clones of every other modded bike.

Like the first things most people post about is what airbox should I get? what cans? Anybody got a spare Tigcraft or Evo system as I've heard it's the best etc,etc

Each to their own,I know 


Exit grumpy old fart now going for a lay down Wink
www.apriliaperformance.co.uk
www.apriliaforum.co.uk
www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk

Looking forward to the next track day
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 18:16
hm or translogic 
Are best but pay for what you get
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 18:18
I had dyno jet one on mine 
But only because I had pc but worked fine
Back to Top
426hemi View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member

owner of the big bore!

Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Location: cannock
Status: Offline
Points: 4065
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 426hemi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 18:30
Cordona pq8, great system 👍
Back to Top
Ningaman17 View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2017
Location: Swindon
Status: Offline
Points: 42
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ningaman17 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 20:15
translogic dont make one for my bike. Not sure how the hm fits and if it works with ap rearsets but is a option im looking at. It is between a hm and dyno jet need to see if i can get the pc3 working if not il just get a hm plus ss or whatever it is 👍
Back to Top
426hemi View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member

owner of the big bore!

Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Location: cannock
Status: Offline
Points: 4065
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 426hemi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 21:56
Cordona do a toe peg strain gauge quick shifter.
http://www.moto46.co.uk/product/pq8-combo-twin/
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 23:20
if your going to pay that money get a hm
Not saying that that isn't any good but hm are the best on market buy far 
Back to Top
Ningaman17 View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2017
Location: Swindon
Status: Offline
Points: 42
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ningaman17 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2018 at 23:30
i think im set on a hm plus. By far the best write up and says basicly about pre detonation with fuel cut as it could still fire with a spark. Basicy said everything i needed to know 👍
Back to Top
greenman1966 View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 06 Jul 2016
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 90
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote greenman1966 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2018 at 22:46
im in nz, and they were easy to buy online. And programming via smartphone is a plus . And for the dynajet one o u need a power commander also. So not cost-effective . 
Back to Top
mixdrive1 View Drop Down
Moto GP Alien
Moto GP Alien
Avatar

Joined: 03 Oct 2014
Location: Lincoln
Status: Offline
Points: 521
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mixdrive1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2018 at 21:36
Originally posted by Ningaman17 Ningaman17 wrote:

translogic dont make one for my bike. Not sure how the hm fits and if it works with ap rearsets but is a option im looking at. It is between a hm and dyno jet need to see if i can get the pc3 working if not il just get a hm plus ss or whatever it is 👍

I have a translogic intellishift on my gen1 race bike. It has been faultless for the last 1.5 seasons racing 
2003R,2003Eddy. Previous RS250,2006Factory,2001mille,2001R,2002mille
Back to Top
426hemi View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member

owner of the big bore!

Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Location: cannock
Status: Offline
Points: 4065
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 426hemi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2018 at 23:11
The hm will work with rearsets as you replace the shifter rod with a shorter one that should come with the kit and the strain gauge fits inline on the rod.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.00
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.047 seconds.