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Topic: Rearsets
Posted By: Storkers
Subject: Rearsets
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 00:39
recent Rsvr owner got a set of rearsets in gold on that I like as match forks and wheels, but doesn’t have rear brake cylinder included, so basically rear brake is non existent, is there any after market ones in gold that will give me a rear brake or anything to give a rear brake long term with ones I have, is a 2003 gen 1 model??????



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Posted By: constant
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 02:49
gilles do them in gold


Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 07:34
yes have seen those and to be fair looks like they may be the make I have already fitted, however they don’t seem to do them with rear brake m/c combined,this is what I’m after really or some way of getting a rear brake as is?


Posted By: wigginsjp
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 08:46
You can still achieve a rear brake even with standard rearsets. Just needs a proper bleed through. 

The caliper needs to be off and spaced out with a spanner or similar then inverted so the bleed nipple is upwards. 

Griff has a great video on a standard set on you tube  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rIekXOWR1vo" rel="nofollow - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rIekXOWR1vo




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Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 13:54
Im not sure if im reading this correctly but do you have aftermarket rearsets but the MC is still in its original position as opposed to mounted vertically on the rearset itself? 

If you have an aftermarket set up you should be able to bleed it as in the e video above and it should stay good where as the OEM will fade after time in most cases but some are lucky and dont suffer the same problem .


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Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 14:43
yes sorry I have after market rearsets on at the moment think are gold Gilles ones, but the m/c is still in original place and not moved to hang on rearset itself, will try bleeding as per video above and see how get on 


Posted By: bhill22
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 14:54
Me too have Gilles rearsets but the MC is in original position, I have pondered the same question, why has the MC not moved as that is one of the advantages of after market rearsets?


Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 15:15
Why not move it??? Is there no mounting for it on the rearset?

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Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 15:38
not that I can see no? Don’t really want to have to get another set of rearsets as like the gold colour of ones on it, but would like a back brake😩, has anyone used dot 5.1 with m/c in original position with any good results?


Posted By: David451
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 15:57
Griff says he wouldn't sell gold ones because the finish fades off I bought a set of silver ones from him and they are nice and you can move the master cyl.  In terms of bleeding you still have to remove the caliper but that's it sorted until you change fluids in two years time. Would I buy them again from him yes definately they are well worth the money and he keeps spares for them. Build them with loctite though cause all rearsets fall apart because of vibration 


Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 15:57
seems very odd not to be able to mount the mc do they not look like this?

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Posted By: David451
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 16:33
that’s them he does a bit on the forum how to fit them as well I bought the wsb kit which is just a tube, cap and a clip it does away with the bulky resovoir 


Posted By: legend88
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 16:59
Originally posted by David451 David451 wrote:

I bought the wsb kit which is just a tube, cap and a clip it does away with the bulky resovoir 


The best option for this of course is to use a master cylinder from a RSV4 as these have an integral reservoir - much neater:




Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 17:38
Originally posted by legend88 legend88 wrote:

Originally posted by David451 David451 wrote:

I bought the wsb kit which is just a tube, cap and a clip it does away with the bulky resovoir 


The best option for this of course is to use a master cylinder from a RSV4 as these have an integral reservoir - much neater:



Yep i agree when I've got some spare cash I'll be grabbing that off you legend if you still have it by then. Ive got the tube fitted on mine now but im surprised how loosely it fits over nipple on the MC.  Ive tightened it up on the jubilee clip as much as i dare but im convinced its not sealed correctly as the break has faded already and the level has dropped slightly. Think im going to re fit the oem res for now.


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Posted By: wigginsjp
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 20:17
I missed out on a cheap RSV4 rear master as I forgot it was on eBay! 

I've the clear tube on both bikes but I'd agree that the HRC one seems loose. Better option is Tygon tubing. Doesn't go white or sweat and comes in the correct size for the rear master cylinder elbow. The HRC one to seal correctly I had to use a chunk of the old black tube and wedge the HRC tube over it. It did seal 


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Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 20:52
if I could work out how to post a pic on here I would post what is on it !


Posted By: wigginsjp
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 21:50
see the arrow in two squares when you reply to a post 7 from the left?

Press that then you should in the line of icons see a picture of a tree also 7 from the left? 

Stay with me.....press that. 

Then upload the picture you want. Least that's how it works on my iPad 😝


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Posted By: legend88
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 22:01
Originally posted by wigginsjp wigginsjp wrote:

see the arrow in two squares when you reply to a post 7 from the left?

Press that then you should in the line of icons see a picture of a tree also 7 from the left? 

Stay with me.....press that. 

Then upload the picture you want. Least that's how it works on my iPad 😝


Unfortunately that only works if you are a premium member otherwise you need to post your pic on an image hosting site then link to it. Or if you have dropbox or similar you can link to that too.




Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2018 at 22:52
ok how do become a premium member then?


Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2018 at 07:39


Posted By: legend88
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2018 at 08:03
There was a link in the forum menu but I think it has been stated that it no longer works. Another recent thread posted a new link if you can find it! It was very recent but I cannot remember which one. Other than that one of the admins will probably be along to provide the link


Posted By: wigginsjp
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2018 at 11:16
Spoonz can sort you out the membership when he sees this 

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Posted By: Fitz
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2018 at 16:50
I got mine off a KTM sxf 450 much more cost effective because you don't have flagship Aprilia tax on them 
KTM use Brembo master cylinders on the majority of there bikes 

Originally posted by legend88 legend88 wrote:


The best option for this of course is to use a master cylinder from a RSV4 as these have an integral reservoir - much neater:




Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2018 at 17:50
Originally posted by wigginsjp wigginsjp wrote:

I missed out on a cheap RSV4 rear master as I forgot it was on eBay! 

I've the clear tube on both bikes but I'd agree that the HRC one seems loose. Better option is Tygon tubing. Doesn't go white or sweat and comes in the correct size for the rear master cylinder elbow. The HRC one to seal correctly I had to use a chunk of the old black tube and wedge the HRC tube over it. It did seal 

Thought it was just me mate as I couldn't find any threads about it. I did think about doing the same as you with some of the oem tube just seems wrong to need to do anything should just fit if its sold specifically for the job. Just noticed Fitz has replied and says a KTM unit also fits so thats another option. 


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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2018 at 12:44
Sold for the job?  HRC res kit?  A bodge at best for a race bike, some people are just too easily influenced WinkLOL


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Posted By: Stevex
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2018 at 16:35
Originally posted by David451 David451 wrote:

that’s them he does a bit on the forum how to fit them as well I bought the wsb kit which is just a tube, cap and a clip it does away with the bulky resovoir 

You mean that bit of green tubing that doesn't even fit properly without a poxy looking jubilee clip that is definitely not HRC. 
How is the original 5gm reservoir bulky?   LOL




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Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2018 at 20:26
don’t both nothing but aggro I put the resovour back on and hid it behind the side panel below the seat

Or fit a ktm or Rsv m/c with built in reservoir 


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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2018 at 20:37
I agree Clap

I fitted the standard res on mine round the other way though so it was mounted to the rear of the heel guard.

Looks a little more prominent but it give more clearance for the s/arm



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Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 10:56
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

Sold for the job?  HRC res kit?  A bodge at best for a race bike, some people are just too easily influenced WinkLOL

Yes Ian on Griffs site it is sold " as recommended for use with AP rearsets " but its sh*t and not fit for purpose at all im going to put the oem res back on when i get home ( im in your neck of the woods this week ) maybe ok for a trackbike but when I left home last week half the fluid was gone and the tube was milky and wet! Very poor im surprised people still use it and Griffs still selling it.


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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 14:26
I take your point Confused

I'm somewhat surprised as well but if people are taken in by the whole HRC hype and ask for it and are prepared to spend their money then you can't really blame people for taking their money can you?

If it is anything to do with HRC and I have my doubts as I would think it's probably a generic copy of something HRC once put on a race bike and quite possibly their master cylinder was a slightly different dia. and didn't leak.

Who knows,I think it's a POS and wouldn't bother putting it on a mates bike let alone mine.  If it ain't broken why fix it?




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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 14:29
Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

im in your neck of the woods this week .


Whereabouts are you going?  Could be up for a ride if the weather's good as I've been away for the last 3 weeks


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Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 14:57
Im near Conwy visiting my mum with the family so im in the jam jar the apes sulking at home she wanted to come out to play. I have come on my own before next time I'll give you a shout 

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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 15:03
Ah,just down the road in Abergele,you almost go past my house on the A55.   Well you can see my house over the bungalows anyway.

How long are you around for? Drop in for a coffee if you have time?


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Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 22:01
thanks mate that's good of you to offwr and I would of loved to but we arw heading home tomorrow.  No wonder you recognised where i was when i posted up a pic a fww years ago when i brought the bike i was playing in your back garden. Im so jealous of the roads you have here they are amazing! Next time i comw I'll ket tou know for sure and I'll leave an hour or so frwe.


Posted By: wigginsjp
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 22:06
is the 'e' misbehaving on your keypad Adam? 😅 

Thought I was reading in Welsh for a moment 


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Posted By: Fitz
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 22:42
I had the HRC kit on my bike for years never had a problem with it, was the master cylinder which failed so thought I'd upgrade to a KTM unit 


Posted By: David451
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 23:05
I fitted the tube on mine and it’s fine I just sleeved it over a bit of the old pipe. Stuck it in boiling water and it went over no probs and no leaks

Not too sure about the brake line though it sits against the swing arm and thinking it’s going to chaff through some time in the future


Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 23:15
Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

thanks mate that's good of you to offwr and I would of loved to but we arw heading home tomorrow.  No wonder you recognised where i was when i posted up a pic a fww years ago when i brought the bike i was playing in your back garden. Im so jealous of the roads you have here they are amazing! Next time i comw I'll ket tou know for sure and I'll leave an hour or so frwe.


Sure thing Thumbs Up  We have some really nice roads that don't see a lot of traffic,let me know when you plan on coming up again and we'll sort something out.

A day would be better than an hour or so though,and even then you'd only see a small part of what's on offer locally.


Errr,sorry for the postjack Storkers,View Drop Downnormal service has been resumed Wink


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Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 23:54
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

thanks mate that's good of you to offwr and I would of loved to but we arw heading home tomorrow.  No wonder you recognised where i was when i posted up a pic a fww years ago when i brought the bike i was playing in your back garden. Im so jealous of the roads you have here they are amazing! Next time i comw I'll ket tou know for sure and I'll leave an hour or so frwe.


Sure thing Thumbs Up  We have some really nice roads that don't see a lot of traffic,let me know when you plan on coming up again and we'll sort something out. Top man if im woth the.kids it will be a flier if im on the bike all dayThumbs Up

A day would be better than an hour or so though,and even then you'd only see a small part of what's on offer locally.


Errr,sorry for the postjack Storkers,View Drop Downnormal service has been resumed Wink


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Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2018 at 23:55
Originally posted by wigginsjp wigginsjp wrote:

is the 'e' misbehaving on your keypad Adam? 😅 

Thought I was reading in Welsh for a moment 
Hahaha im a bit pissed 


Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2018 at 00:13
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

thanks mate that's good of you to offwr and I would of loved to but we arw heading home tomorrow.  No wonder you recognised where i was when i posted up a pic a fww years ago when i brought the bike i was playing in your back garden. Im so jealous of the roads you have here they are amazing! Next time i comw I'll ket tou know for sure and I'll leave an hour or so frwe.


Sure thing Thumbs Up  We have some really nice roads that don't see a lot of traffic,let me know when you plan on coming up again and we'll sort something out.

A day would be better than an hour or so though,and even then you'd only see a small part of what's on offer locally.


Errr,sorry for the postjack Storkers,View Drop Downnormal service has been resumed Wink

If im with the family a coffee and natter will be my lot mate but if im on two wheels show me the way to go


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Posted By: Timson
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2018 at 13:17
Stevex.... Is your exhaust system ceramic coated?... looks smart!

Where did you get it done? 

Tim


Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 18:41
so after all the chat anyone got the best solution for getting a decent working( more than 5 minutes!) rear brake for RSVR 2003 gen 1????!!!!!


Posted By: Stevex
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 18:44
Originally posted by Timson Timson wrote:

Stevex.... Is your exhaust system ceramic coated?... looks smart!

Where did you get it done? 

Tim

Yep, ceramic. 
Camcoat in Warrington.


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Posted By: David451
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 18:54
fit the ap rearsets and move the cylinder that’s it


Posted By: legend88
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 19:07
That's it!  LOL


Posted By: wigginsjp
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 19:09
Originally posted by David451 David451 wrote:

fit the ap rearsets and move the cylinder that’s it

You can still achieve a good pedal on standard rearsets provided it is fully bled. The moving of the rear master really only delays the requirement to bleed the brakes for longer. 

It takes a while to fully get the air out. KTM and Ducati are no real difference to the messing around as most of the air is trapped in the caliper that unless inverted and pumped through several times just doesn't shift it quickly. 


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Posted By: Stevex
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 19:30
Originally posted by wigginsjp wigginsjp wrote:


You can still achieve a good pedal on standard rearsets provided it is fully bled. The moving of the rear master really only delays the requirement to bleed the brakes for longer. 

Totally disagree; I've had 2 Tuonos, first was standard rear brake set up, second came with AP rear sets. The difference is night and day; standard was bled to death and was still crap to the point that I stopped using the rear. Braking with the AP's is a revelation in comparison and since initial bleeding has never needed repeating.


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Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 20:01
does the ap rearsets come with m/c or is that extra? Also if is where’s best to get as looks as tho some kits mentioned tubes are sh*t?


Posted By: Stevex
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 20:24
Originally posted by Storkers Storkers wrote:

does the ap rearsets come with m/c or is that extra? Also if is where’s best to get as looks as tho some kits mentioned tubes are sh*t?

The original MC is used c/w original reservoir (if you don't want to use the [HRC LOL ] green tube).
There's nothing wrong with the original MC except that as standard it is mounted horizontally next to the engine / gearbox.  Mounted vertically on the rear set it works perfectly.


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Posted By: David451
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 20:29
go onto ap buy the kit rearsets brake switch and the hrc tube

The rearsets are nice and value for money standard ones are not best positioned for me, slippy  when wet and you can’t set up go shift which is a revolation 

The hrc tube is too large for the pipe on the master so I used a small section of the old pipe first heated the hrc pipe in water and fitted it over that sleeve and it’s perfect

Why they say it’s sh*t I don’t know. Anyway bleed it as explained on this forum and forget about back brake issues. 

The ap rearsets on mine are grippy good looking decent quality you get spares for them and can set them normal or gp shift

If you look at the battery cable upgrade kits fook knows where they get the price from   A metre of 170amp cable 4 clip ends and a metre of mesh sheathing something like 15 quid.  Half hour with a crimper or solder the ends on how hard is that


Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 20:29
ok thanks so can use original mounted on ap rearsets then fine ?


Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 20:35
Originally posted by Stevex Stevex wrote:

Originally posted by wigginsjp wigginsjp wrote:


You can still achieve a good pedal on standard rearsets provided it is fully bled. The moving of the rear master really only delays the requirement to bleed the brakes for longer. 

Totally disagree; I've had 2 Tuonos, first was standard rear brake set up, second came with AP rear sets. The difference is night and day; standard was bled to death and was still crap to the point that I stopped using the rear. Braking with the AP's is a revelation in comparison and since initial bleeding has never needed repeating.


I must be be very lucky then as I have a 2003 Mille and a 2009 Tuono and they both have properly working rear brakes and never had any issues with either bike.

I did fit some AP rearsets to the Mille but that was purely for set up as a trackbike as it used to frighten me when I decked my feet on the standard pegs.

I've never understood the issues people have with bleeding hydraulic systems on these bikes,it seems that by and large most owners couldn't bleed to air free if their lives depended on it,I don't know why as it's quite simple.

All these convoluted methods of hanging calipers up high and upside down ,tins of paint hanging off pedals overnight etc etc. It should be possible bar anything broken in the circuit to bleed completely in about 2 or 3 res fills and have it stay exactly like that until you crack the system to service or flush the fluid.

So no,I don't agree you have to move the master or change it to get a good working rear brake,at least not unless you have a defective unit somewhere in which case it needs replacing wherever you decide to mount it.

Even perfectly set up the rear brake is not awesome,but it's a sportsbike,they are meant to be like that as most braking is done using the front anyway but it is possible with clean discs and good pads to lock the rear wheel so that's all you can ask.

Quite useful as the AP and other rearsets are if you're happy with the standard posn you should be able to also have a good,working rear brake with what comes as standard.

I know I'm not the only one who has found this





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Posted By: Stevex
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 20:36
Originally posted by Storkers Storkers wrote:

ok thanks so can use original mounted on ap rearsets then fine ?

Yep, see the pic on page one of my setup, original mc and reservoir.

This taken from AP's rear set web page:

These rearsets are specifically developed for Aprilia motorcycles by Aprilia Performance.

  • They relocate the rear brake master cylinder, which helps with consistent rear brake operation. This can be a a common issue with poor rear brake operation!


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Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 20:52
ok thanks guys may have a play with setup as is as money tight with holiday and kids off school!!! Don’t use it much but nice to have there, bit pushed for space to as old Vespa waiting to sell and a old pinball which sold a month ago and still waiting to be picked up, plus the usual household sh*t that gets put in garage, It’s a struggle just to get her in there safe on crappy stand!


Posted By: wigginsjp
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 21:45
Originally posted by Stevex Stevex wrote:

Originally posted by wigginsjp wigginsjp wrote:


You can still achieve a good pedal on standard rearsets provided it is fully bled. The moving of the rear master really only delays the requirement to bleed the brakes for longer. 

Totally disagree; I've had 2 Tuonos, first was standard rear brake set up, second came with AP rear sets. The difference is night and day; standard was bled to death and was still crap to the point that I stopped using the rear. Braking with the AP's is a revelation in comparison and since initial bleeding has never needed repeating.

May have to totally disagree with your totally disagree 😂

Had two gen on standard set and one gen2 with no issues, consistent pedal and one could even lock! Two current gen2's one of which never needs bleeding other than regular fluid change the other seems to go off over time. I use AP ones on one of the racebikes and the current road bike so that it feels similar and I prefer them but only for the position. Rarely use the rear in any case and would like to consider a thumb brake on the race bike possibly 


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Aprilia RSVR Factory 2004 Race Bike
Kawasaki ZX10R 2007 Race Bike
Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory 2020
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www.apworkshops.co.uk


Posted By: Storkers
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 22:43
don’t use it much and have to admit the radial front is awesome but like to have as can control better when on the back wheel, and mot blokes where I am will fail every time if no brake, will try and give a good bleed over weekend and see how go, never had issue on all other bikes I’ve had, guess it’s just character!


Posted By: David451
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2018 at 22:45
bleeding the rear brakes on mine was a coont and I followed the proper procedure and I’m a technician with years of experience 

I did notice though that it takes time to replenish the cylinder from the pipe I fitted and once I allowed the fluid to rest for 30 sec or so after each few pumps it worked fine   I use the 6 pumps open bleeder close then repeat holding the pedal down when opening the bleeder

Perhaps with a new master it would have been easier but tricky on mine. But it’s a common complaint and griff says this resolves it


Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2018 at 10:17
Originally posted by David451 David451 wrote:

go onto ap buy the kit rearsets brake switch and the hrc tube

The rearsets are nice and value for money standard ones are not best positioned for me, slippy  when wet and you can’t set up go shift which is a revolation 

The hrc tube is too large for the pipe on the master so I used a small section of the old pipe first heated the hrc pipe in water and fitted it over that sleeve and it’s perfect

Why they say it’s sh*t I don’t know. Anyway bleed it as explained on this forum and forget about back brake issues. 

The ap rearsets on mine are grippy good looking decent quality you get spares for them and can set them normal or gp shift

If you look at the battery cable upgrade kits fook knows where they get the price from   A metre of 170amp cable 4 clip ends and a metre of mesh sheathing something like 15 quid.  Half hour with a crimper or solder the ends on how hard is that

Still not convinced tbh before i left for my hols i checked and the tube was wet top to bottom wirh brake fluid so it must be weeping through the tube. Im going to re fit the oem res even though I like the look and will sell the HRC kit and spare new tube i have. Seems it works for some people but certainly not me.


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Posted By: legend88
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2018 at 10:22
'There are none so blind as those who will not see'


Posted By: David451
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2018 at 10:29
can’t see how it’s leaking top to bottom must be leaking out top perhaps filled too high because you need room for expansion loads of folk have them


Posted By: badapple
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2018 at 10:31
Originally posted by David451 David451 wrote:

can’t see how it’s leaking top to bottom must be leaking out top perhaps filled too high because you need room for expansion loads of folk have them

No mate its filled half way


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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2018 at 11:53
Originally posted by legend88 legend88 wrote:

'There are none so blind as those who will not see'



LOL  Clap

Nothing to add to that

Well perhaps " A fool and his money are soon parted "   Wink


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Posted By: Mr Miller
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2018 at 12:05
Mr G did I ever tell you about my £5 m/c from the east ….?

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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2018 at 12:07
Ah So,velly sturdly piece of klit LOL

How's the arm?





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