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Topic: Twin Exhaust Options Gen 1 RSV
Posted By: kingb
Subject: Twin Exhaust Options Gen 1 RSV
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2014 at 13:46
Hi all,
 
So after 6 weeks of glorious RSV ownership I think its time to look at making some changes to my new baby.
 
I really like bikes having twin exhausts, one on each side. It just looks ballanced and right!
 
So just wanted to ask the collective wisdom what i should be keeping my eyes open for!
 
I know there are some Aka pipes out therefe but understand these are modified gen 2 systems? Big mods?? I have also seen some Harris pipes that sold just before christmas on ebay (damn!!)
 
any others i should be looking for? Who else has done it and any advice? Costs? Anyone selling??
 
Cheers



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Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2014 at 15:18
Most big names make a twin system for the gen1 or should I say did make a system.

So budget options...falco headers ..for some these bolt straight up maybe wrap the headers where close to the bellypan,some have had to add a bulge or 2 to the bellypan...??.

Gen2 system with 3 bolt flanges added,personally I'd leave the rear down pipe in place and mod the collector to mate up as again some people have issues with the rear pipe

Then there are any number of purpose made twin systems..Leo Vince,akrapovic,renegade,Harris,arrows,sil moto ,tigcraft,etc etc.some are for 99-00 models others are for 01-03 ..different suspension linkages dictate the clearance.

For any twin system if you want pillion pegs you need to mod the left hand peg or buy a set of pillion pegs with the hangers..very rare.

Or no pillion then just hangers..gen 2 doesn't fit as different bolt spacing.

Also gen 1 single seat subframe may not have bolt holes on the left side....eiter add rivnuts or change subframe to dual seat version.

What ever you decide twin systems make a great noise and you'll have fun setting off car alarms as well as a nice 10bhp hike in the midrange and a bit at the top. The budget conscious stick with a single can and a moded collector to get nigh on the same results.


Cost wise falco headers can be picked up for 30 quid dual systems go from 175 upwards you just need to be in the right place at the right time.

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Posted By: kingb
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2014 at 21:39
thank you! Thats a good run down!
 
I should have added its an year 2000 bike.
 
I will have to just keep my eyes open then i guess but its good to hear that there are so many standard systems out there!


Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2014 at 22:57

Originally posted by kingb kingb wrote:

thank you! Thats a good run down!
 
I should have added its an year 2000 bike.
 
I will have to just keep my eyes open then i guess but its good to hear that there are so many standard systems out there!

no worries...there are also the renegade high levels that keep the standard collector..link pipe splits into 2 and you have can either side 




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Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2014 at 01:37
Mmmmm yum!

NickyBoy

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Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2014 at 07:20
Originally posted by NickyBoy1984 NickyBoy1984 wrote:

Mmmmm yum!

NickyBoy
ha ha thought you might of been lurking at the mention of an exhaust

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Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2014 at 10:13
Always happy to share too Hehee!

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Posted By: Wavestarved
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2014 at 22:00
Originally posted by redratbike redratbike wrote:


Originally posted by kingb kingb wrote:

thank you! Thats a good run down!
 

I should have added its an year 2000 bike.

 

I will have to just keep my eyes open then i guess but its good to hear that there are so many standard systems out there!


no worries...there are also the renegade high levels that keep the standard collector..link pipe splits into 2 and you have can either side 




Whose is that? Lush man!
Does this standard collector to -split have the same mid range advantages as a full twin system? I'm assuming not.

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Posted By: camngetit
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2014 at 22:35
Would do if you get your collector modded and a forza chip I am getting to like the high level twin cans would prefer proper twin pipes but if a set came along at the right price ???

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Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2014 at 22:42
Originally posted by Wavestarved Wavestarved wrote:


Whose is that? Lush man!
Does this standard collector to -split have the same mid range advantages as a full twin system? I'm assuming not.

No idea whose bike it is ..it's an old old pic from somewhere no one on here I'm sure

Basically no I don't think it offers any power gains at all..but combine it with a modded header then yeah.

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Posted By: Longun
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2014 at 22:50
That looks similar to this setup

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?284797-Akrapovic-dual-high-mount-slip-on-system-uk" rel="nofollow - http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?284797-Akrapovic-dual-high-mount-slip-on-system-uk


Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2014 at 22:51
Originally posted by Wavestarved Wavestarved wrote:


Whose is that? Lush man!
Does this standard collector to -split have the same mid range advantages as a full twin system? I'm assuming not.

No idea whose bike it is ..it's an old old pic from somewhere no one on here I'm sure

Basically no I don't think it offers any power gains at all..but combine it with a modded header then yeah.

This company still do a system

image shows twin hi level gp carbon silencers.Price is £450 and includes twin pipework plus shipping.

http://www.performanceracingparts.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=aprsvm" rel="nofollow - http://www.performanceracingparts.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=aprsvm

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Posted By: Slackey
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2014 at 22:59
Thats not to far from me!

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Posted By: Stevex11sdw
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 19:41
There is a mille/Falco thing on ebay at the moment

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APRILIA-RSV-MILLE-2001-/261426728668?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3cde3f4edc

I bought a spare set of fairings of him and he was a great bloke. Sadly he is having no joy selling the bike so might be worth making him an offer on his pipes as they were lovely!


Posted By: pjroth72
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 20:33
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APRILIA-RSV-MILLE-2001-/261426728668?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3cde3f4edc" rel="nofollow - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/APRILIA-RSV-MILLE-2001-/261426728668?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3cde3f4edc

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Posted By: andirsv
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2014 at 17:06
mate, I MAY have my Arrow SBK 2-2 sytem for sale in the near future if i cant get a set of link pipes made up!!!!

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Posted By: adam
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2014 at 23:51
I made my gen 1 tuono in to a twin system as I prefere twin pipes. I just bought the full gen 2 system and cut header flanges off and welded the gen 1 flanges on in there place and ive now got a tasty little twin system and very happy with it and will be even better when there cored out later this week ! :)

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Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 08:14
Originally posted by adam adam wrote:

I made my gen 1 tuono in to a twin system as I prefere twin pipes. I just bought the full gen 2 system and cut header flanges off and welded the gen 1 flanges on in there place and ive now got a tasty little twin system and very happy with it and will be even better when there cored out later this week ! :)
dont forget to decat as welll Adam

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Posted By: camngetit
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 10:58
Quite fancy this myself is it as simple as just swooping the flanges and what year gen 2 pipes fit or did you fit

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Posted By: adam
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 22:11
Originally posted by redratbike redratbike wrote:

Originally posted by adam adam wrote:

I made my gen 1 tuono in to a twin system as I prefere twin pipes. I just bought the full gen 2 system and cut header flanges off and welded the gen 1 flanges on in there place and ive now got a tasty little twin system and very happy with it and will be even better when there cored out later this week ! :)
dont forget to decat as welll Adam

The decat will be sorted also

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Posted By: adam
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 22:21
Originally posted by camngetit camngetit wrote:

Quite fancy this myself is it as simple as just swooping the flanges and what year gen 2 pipes fit or did you fit

I dont know what year they were, I just bought a gen 2 full system but not sure what year it was off ! Id of thought 06 onwards.
It was a bit of a faf about getting the rear header in place and tacked into place but not a bit job tbh.
I welded as much as I could while the flanges were bolted to the head so they face stayed flush when put underheat. But make sure you have the mille rear hangers as they fit straight on and hang the cans in place and make sure there is a bit of space infront of the starter motor and that it doesnt foul your rear shockerbefore you weld pipes on to flanges. I also had to move the hanger bracket on the cans around 2" futher down the can and also had to move around slightly. If you do the conversion you will see what I mean

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Posted By: adam
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 22:34

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Posted By: kingb
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 07:34
please pm me if you're serious about selling the arrows as those could be just right. I also have large feet but don't think the pipes getting it the way of my heels will really be my limiting factor. 


Posted By: sparky6800
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 07:59
I got the gen2 on my gen1 too, its lush

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Posted By: Spider™
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 08:47
Quick question for those who put falco dual exhausts on mille and use their mille on track.
Are exhausts high enough not to touch the ground in the corners?


Posted By: dave65
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 23:29
I've just bought these off ebay fir my 2002 gen 1.
Dont know anything about them but hope it fits ok. http://s984.photobucket.com/user/davidpc692/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2014-09-15-21-26-45.png.html" rel="nofollow">
Also bought these aswell, haven't a clue if if will all go together.
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Posted By: dave65
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 23:43
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Posted By: adam
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 23:54
They look near enough mate. If you need any help or a look at mine to see how mine is I dont think im far from you. I had to move the can brackets a bit lower to fit my rear hangers and redrill and rivert

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Posted By: dave65
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2014 at 00:00
Ok, i haven't got any of the parts yet but hope to have them by end of the week.
Any pics of yours. And will i need link pipes.


Posted By: adam
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2014 at 00:05
You will need link pipes and on my tuono I think ive got mille rear hangers and they fit.

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Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2014 at 07:33
They are Caponord headers...not sure if you'll have rear shock linkage clearance issues...I have seen these before and always wondered if they'd fit

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Posted By: dave65
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2014 at 12:46
Cheers mate, theres some link pipes on ebay at the moment.


Posted By: dave65
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2014 at 20:19
Just bought these off ebay so hope i have enough bits to do the conversion now.
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Posted By: Bigwaves
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 10:17
Giannelli Power. https://twitter.com/bigwavesorris/status/625920503891537920


Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 10:41
Originally posted by Bigwaves Bigwaves wrote:

Giannelli Power. https://twitter.com/bigwavesorris/status/625920503891537920
so you have the noise but a modded collector will help with power

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Posted By: Bigwaves
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 12:54
Now I have read (sort of)on here about them. Is it you that makes or supplies them? How much are are they? What is it? Must be something to do with the manifold? Thanks for your help.


Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2015 at 14:21
the collector is where the 2 downpipes merge ,its modded to mimic the flow of a dual system.
Approx 10 bhp hike  in the midrange


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Posted By: Stevieonit
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 21:56
There is always the shotgun option too twin silencers on one side

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Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2016 at 08:56
Originally posted by Bigwaves Bigwaves wrote:

Now I have read (sort of)on here about them. Is it you that makes or supplies them? How much are are they? What is it? Must be something to do with the manifold? Thanks for your help.



If you have a single can system on your bike a modded collector should be the third thing you buy for it.

Other 2 being changing the stand and  Johnboy's excellent uprated power cable set.

If you're keeping the single can you NEED the modded collector,only exception to the rule is if you fit a complete twin can system.






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Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2016 at 13:01
Originally posted by Bigwaves Bigwaves wrote:

Now I have read (sort of)on here about them. Is it you that makes or supplies them? How much are are they? What is it? Must be something to do with the manifold? Thanks for your help.
yes it's me didn't I reply ....bloody memory

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Posted By: Stegedman
Date Posted: 28 Feb 2017 at 18:49
Wow, that looks awesome.


Posted By: Iomtuono
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 10:43
Hi
I have a gen 1 tuono with 2-2 akrapovic evo system but with custom link pipes into scorpion stubby cans.

I am.toying with going 2-1.
I am just not sure does sound the dogs but not convinced.


Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 11:24
Originally posted by Iomtuono Iomtuono wrote:

Hi
I have a gen 1 tuono with 2-2 akrapovic evo system but with custom link pipes into scorpion stubby cans.

I am.toying with going 2-1.
I am just not sure does sound the dogs but not convinced.
are you thinking modded collector system or a proper 2-1 full system?

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Posted By: Iomtuono
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2017 at 15:49
Think a modded collector be best. But not sure.


Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2017 at 16:21
Originally posted by Iomtuono Iomtuono wrote:

Think a modded collector be best. But not sure.
finding a good 2-1 system ..they are rarer than a 2-2  hence the modded collector route and why I sell them

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Posted By: Iomtuono
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2017 at 16:26
I have a gen 1 titanium exhaust but don't have 2-1 headers and mid.
But keeping it the way it is for now. As these italian bikes love money being spent on them


Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2017 at 16:56
Originally posted by Iomtuono Iomtuono wrote:

I have a gen 1 titanium exhaust but don't have 2-1 headers and mid.
But keeping it the way it is for now. As these italian bikes love money being spent on them
if you buy a modded collector from me in the future I'd be happy to supply some gen1 downpipes free of charge Thumbs Up

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Posted By: NickyBoy1984
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 16:14
Your that guy who had the tuono with the Evo5 system aren't ya..??
That system is mega cool and rare as f**k

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Posted By: Burchy1234
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 12:27
With the twin pipe akra set up is it possible to fit pillion pegs? If so what type are required


Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 13:00
Originally posted by Burchy1234 Burchy1234 wrote:

With the twin pipe akra set up is it possible to fit pillion pegs? If so what type are required
standard right one , left one needs a conversion kit no one sells aftermarket pillion pegs for twin systems


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Posted By: Johnboy
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 13:58
Akrapovic evolution system with Pipewerx custom cans.


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Date Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 17:56
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Posted By: Stevieonit
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2017 at 08:37
I cut up a falco peg and made the modded part that u can't get

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Posted By: The Shredder
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2017 at 10:10
Question,

Are there any purpose build single exhaust full systems and how do they compare with the double can full systems?

As in if the single can has the same system as the proper dual can systems but with just single can,How would they perform on a dyno? Any real power difference,

Because I think on the more slender/cleaner looking Gen 1 98-2000 single exhaust looks alot better I don't really know why people want duals so bad on them? They must be a fair bit of weight than singles,More money,Twice risk of damage,If there is really a big power difference yeah.

I've got a Ti gianelli single can with link pipe thats needs repacking,If it produces 99% same midrange and peak bhp as the dual gianelli with one of redrats modded collectors i'm 100% prefer it to a double system,If I had both to choose from regardless of cost.

but i seem to be a minority with this op so i'll shut up LOL


Posted By: rocketnz
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2019 at 04:23
Single Arrow, out performs all other options.


Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2019 at 13:27
Originally posted by The Shredder The Shredder wrote:

Question,

Are there any purpose build single exhaust full systems and how do they compare with the double can full systems?

As in if the single can has the same system as the proper dual can systems but with just single can,How would they perform on a dyno? Any real power difference,

Because I think on the more slender/cleaner looking Gen 1 98-2000 single exhaust looks alot better I don't really know why people want duals so bad on them? They must be a fair bit of weight than singles,More money,Twice risk of damage,If there is really a big power difference yeah.

I've got a Ti gianelli single can with link pipe thats needs repacking,If it produces 99% same midrange and peak bhp as the dual gianelli with one of redrats modded collectors i'm 100% prefer it to a double system,If I had both to choose from regardless of cost.

but i seem to be a minority with this op so i'll shut up LOL


I'm with you for all the points you listed Thumbs Up

However also owning a Gen2 Tuono I love the twin can set up on that.  Once you have a modded collector on a single can set up I think there is very little in it on a dyno.

Probably most of us would never notice in a real world situation


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Posted By: redratbike
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2019 at 20:11
The full arrows system performs well but the arrows dual system produces the same if not a little more midrange
Originally posted by rocketnz rocketnz wrote:

Single Arrow, out performs all other options.


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Posted By: The Shredder
Date Posted: 31 May 2019 at 02:34
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

Originally posted by The Shredder The Shredder wrote:

Question,

Are there any purpose build single exhaust full systems and how do they compare with the double can full systems?

As in if the single can has the same system as the proper dual can systems but with just single can,How would they perform on a dyno? Any real power difference,

Because I think on the more slender/cleaner looking Gen 1 98-2000 single exhaust looks alot better I don't really know why people want duals so bad on them? They must be a fair bit of weight than singles,More money,Twice risk of damage,If there is really a big power difference yeah.

I've got a Ti gianelli single can with link pipe thats needs repacking,If it produces 99% same midrange and peak bhp as the dual gianelli with one of redrats modded collectors i'm 100% prefer it to a double system,If I had both to choose from regardless of cost.

but i seem to be a minority with this op so i'll shut up LOL


I'm with you for all the points you listed Thumbs Up

However also owning a Gen2 Tuono I love the twin can set up on that.  Once you have a modded collector on a single can set up I think there is very little in it on a dyno.

Probably most of us would never notice in a real world situation

A long reply, But hey ho life and that! :)

Yes I know what you mean , I have a 2+2 Akra on my 2003 colin edwards that just really suits the bike ... i've yet to ride since purchasing 1 year ago only on a test ride from a dealer in the wet... It sits in my warehouse stripped down for a good clean i've yet to start to ride it since (not that its actually dirty!) 

I would like to put the fairings back on/tax/mot it and compare direct with my GEN 1 with ginalle end can. (standard besides open airbox and superchips chip) I remember it being fairly quite with the double akras's well more quite than i would have thought and VERY smooth reving/ idle compared to my 2000 R.Too smooth! :) 


Posted By: blacklines
Date Posted: 31 May 2019 at 09:25
Are 2-2 setups much quieter than 2-1s? You'd think so with twice the muffler area. That would come in handy for track riding, even if it cost you a little weight.


Posted By: The Shredder
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2019 at 15:54
Originally posted by blacklines blacklines wrote:

Are 2-2 setups much quieter than 2-1s? You'd think so with twice the muffler area. That would come in handy for track riding, even if it cost you a little weight.

I've only ridden my Edwards for few miles upon purchase, It's been laid up in my warehouse since then LOL, But I was shocked how quite and "smooth" it sounded compared to my 2000 R with a Giannelli titanium which was freshly repacked! So yes in my limited experience  they seem to be quieter.




Posted By: IanG
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2019 at 18:39
I'd not thought of that aspect before Confused

I guess a twin can setup must be quieter as there's twice the can volume and sound absorption



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Looking forward to the next track day


Posted By: 426hemi
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2019 at 18:46
The twin systems aren't quite double as they are smaller diameter, usually about 52 mm inlets but it all helps.


Posted By: blacklines
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2019 at 21:16
Originally posted by The Shredder The Shredder wrote:

Originally posted by blacklines blacklines wrote:

Are 2-2 setups much quieter than 2-1s? You'd think so with twice the muffler area. That would come in handy for track riding, even if it cost you a little weight.

I've only ridden my Edwards for few miles upon purchase, It's been laid up in my warehouse since then LOL, But I was shocked how quite and "smooth" it sounded compared to my 2000 R with a Giannelli titanium which was freshly repacked! So yes in my limited experience  they seem to be quieter.




That's what you want then. These bikes seem to struggle with noise otherwise. Shame the 2-2 systems are so rare and expensive.


Posted By: MorathB
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2019 at 12:32
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

I'd not thought of that aspect before Confused

I guess a twin can setup must be quieter as there's twice the can volume and sound absorption



yes and no: they have more volume to reduce the noise, but on the other hand they can be "less restrictive" which means more power but also more noise-> in total they are +/- as load as a 2-1 but you can gain a bit more power (especially midrange).
One of the Akra cans freshly revised weights 1,3kg + severeal 100g for the extra pipes^^


Posted By: Paddedcell100
Date Posted: 11 Jul 2019 at 20:17
 When I got the Mille off Marko I really expected it to be savagely loud (with that big bore Evo5 system)but its loads quieter than the Evo6 system on the Tuono , and I know that's a big bore system but the silencer outlets aren't as large diameter as the single silencer on the Mille...I was actually really surprised just how quiet that is in comparison (although it did set my mums car alarm off the other week so it's not too quiet😀)..

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Posted By: captbarb
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2022 at 15:44
https://imgur.com/a/990Vrpx. " rel="nofollow - https://imgur.com/a/990Vrpx.  ;
Seems your bike is a 2000 model like this one I have what about these look and sound good it has a gabro chip to suit


Posted By: EmmaAva12
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2022 at 07:29
Bike with the two exhaust looks great.......SmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmile



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