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    Posted: 17 Jul 2011 at 16:04

Can someone help me out with the following.

I have found out thanks to advice of Spoonz's
That the more recent PC 111USB allows mapping for both cylinders on the RSV Mille.
My bike has the older model PC 111 fitted along with K&N & suitable map
downloaded from Dynojet site. Is there any big benefit to upgrade the PC111?
Local dyno man says yes, But to him its $$$$ so I would like another opinion
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andy777 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 2011 at 18:01
I would say its not worth it. The newer PCIII's have more points that he mixture can be "tuned" for example every 500rpm instead of every 1000 rpm. 
Its not gonna make alot of difference.

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Cheers Andy.
 
Is the map for each cylinder also a very minor improvement?
over the old PC 111
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Spoonz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 2011 at 22:21
Me personally i think the ability to customise both cylinders is a quite a bonus. The cylinders on an rsv have a staggered setup from the factory because it runs slightly differently front to back cylinder. Most mechanics usually run the rear cylinder slightly richer because the v twin design inherently runs hotter on the rear cylinder.
 
For that reason, to my way of thinking running individual setups per cylinder is a benefit and also something Aprilia designed into the oem setup. The whole point of a pc3 is fine tuning what is already a pretty well sorted bike, the more you can fine tune the better the result.  The USB version will be better that is no question. Whether it is better enough to justify the cost only you can decide.
 
All that said, paying for a top suspension setup will make the bike and your riding experience significantly better than any pc3 will. I've yet to find a corner where i thought half way round "i need a pc3 usb" but i've found plenty that showed my bike could handle better.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Cheers you have a wealth of knowledge spoonz
regarding RSV's
 
What did you mean regarding Aprilia allowing multi cylinder adjustment as standard?
In your opinion would the bike run cooler or safer setup with a PC111 USB?
 
LMAO @ cornering comment
Im pretty sure all this dyno/PC/ air filter equates to F*** all power gain on the road
My old GSX-R if anything felt a bit crisper like every other bike I have had setup on a dyno.
 
Im sure the biggest winner is the Dyno center.
 
My main goal is making sure the bike is running 100% not too rich or too lean
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Spoonz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2011 at 00:29
The Ecu on the rsv (for most models) has seperate Co adjustments for each cylinder. They are only low throttle adjustments (up to about 1/4) but they allow for differences in the running characteristics of front to rear. No 2 cylinders run identically so it is desirable to have the option to tune each one individually across the whole rev range if you can because the differences are not confined to low throttle conditions. 
 
i mentioned to you in the Pm about custom maps and the reason for that is the fact that the bike a generic map from the net was created on could have had different ecu/tb settings to yours, so the base point for setting up the pc3 to get that map could be different. So your bike could have a richer or weaker starting point to the one the map was created on, you just don't know. It's a bit like adjusting the tracking on your car and expecting every car of the same model to track perfectly with the same settings. But no 2 are identical which is why they are adjustable.
 
No it's not essential and your pc3 will run fine with a decent map. it's just not realising the full potential of the bike. If your happy with he way the bike runs i wouldn't worry about it unless you have the money burning a hole.
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Have you looked for a used one on e-bay? They sometimes come up, may be able to get a bargain one on there.
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Hi
 
Yeh i see one go for £130
But being an electrical device I would rather buy new
I have seen them for £269
 
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an advanced (twin) map can be as much as 6 bhp over a normal pc3 map according to others that have had it done

Edited by redratbike - 29 Jul 2011 at 07:41
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