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think griff will be onto a winner with these.
were lining up for the airbox's as theyre so hard to find.
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just want my bike back mended john :(
thatd be a start pal.
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Where's it up to? Sorry I've been side tracked lately.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Johnboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Feb 2015 at 18:05
Originally posted by Slackey Slackey wrote:

Open Airbox, modded collector and a Forza Eprom are the best mod you can make for hardly any real money.

Renegade/Hooked carbon plate open air filters are regarded as the ones to have but they are like finding a whore without an STD. The EVO open airbox that Forza and Griff sell is equally as good but works differently in that it uses a seal to seal to the underside of the tank to create a plenum.

Griff is getting some Renegade style carbon ones produced, personally I would hold out for one of these as the induction roar is unbeatable.


And don't forget your big trumpets!
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If I had one I'm sure it would sound cool too
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It seems to me that a modded collector, aftermarket can, air box and matching chip are the accepted way to go when it comes to extracting a little more power and ridding the ape of its flat spot, with the collector, can and chip it looks as if they are much of a muchness, it’s the air box that appears to divide opinions.

As I’ll be pursuing this tuning path is due course I’m interested in the air box mod and the various pros and cons.

It’s a given that the OE air box is to small and ultimately will restrict the amount of air available to satisfy a big greedy 1000cc twin, seems to me there are basically 2 solutions, open air box or enlarged air box, the renegade type is essentially an open intake with a filter over the trumpets, the enlarged the air box loses the lid,  the air box lower section makes a seal with the underside of the tank to create a larger space thereby increasing the volume of air available to the engine.

The obvious concern with enlarged air box is unfiltered air entering if the underside of the tank is not sealed effectively.

My concern with the open intake is the absence of any control on air flow, it’s accepted that in certain applications turbulence around the inlet trumpets causes havoc with air entering the engine and all manner of fuelling issues, is the ape immune from such problems?

My thoughts are that to best system would be the enlarged air box but with a foam filter covering the inlet trumpets rather than the OE position over the air box air entry hole, this would increase the volume of air, maintain some form of air flow control and reduce potentially harmful turbulence, having the filter over the inlet trumpets eliminates the worry of unfiltered air entering the engine if the tank seal isn’t tip top, it seems this is the best of both worlds.

    

 

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Go mwr...best of both???



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Originally posted by redratbike redratbike wrote:

Go mwr...best of both???



does that have some sort of filter inside as well as the foam in the lid?
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The APRILIA RSV MILLE OPEN AIRBOX FILTER consists of two
parts. Remove the top-lid of the airbox. Install the small filter and next
install the main filter. No modifications needed to the airbox. The
main filter can be installed on the original place with the original
bolts. The wide foam material offers a barely measurable air
resistance! The surface is as large as possible. The filters are
impregnated with MWR special oil, so that even the smallest dust
particles adhere.The oil and filter materials are naturally
non-flammable!





They do another 2 types check the link

http://www.bellissimoto.com/MWRAprilia.html


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It's all good stuff.

In my honest opinion though ( and it's only mine) I couldn't give a toss about 1 - 2 horsepower gain, it's all about that induction noise for me.

It's so addictive, and hilarious πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ™‰πŸ™‰πŸ™‰
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its being looked at pal.
hopefully its newt serious.
if it is,im fekd as ive spent Β£5k recently on the house
cars just had timing belt done and new discs and pads front and back too.
so itll either be sat for a long long time in the shed or sold as spares/repairs and im bikeless again.
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Originally posted by Johnboy Johnboy wrote:

It's all good stuff.

In my honest opinion though ( and it's only mine) I couldn't give a toss about 1 - 2 horsepower gain, it's all about that induction noise for me.

It's so addictive, and hilarious πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ™‰πŸ™‰πŸ™‰



Yes the noise makes you want to keep "giving it some" lol. I have a Hooked carbon which was one of the last, if not the last that Griff ever had! Big smile I will be doing the RedRat modded collector in the next few weeks and Forza chip to marry the mods together...

I love the horsepower, every little one of them...Whats that saying.. "Look after the ponies and the (V2) sounds take care of themselves.. wait, no.. what?"

I may have made that last bit up.

Sorry. LOL
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I have tried most types of airbox from standard to kn standard to modded box and then I had filter socks over the trumpets with just the bottom half of the box fitted and yes the induction noise is good but I found it too much as in I couldn't hear anything else it was just induction roar so I know have the socks with the top half back on with the seal on so I have the best of both types [IMG]http://[/IMG]
With this top but no kn[IMG]http://[/IMG]
its twins for me !!!!
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[QUOTE=camngetit]I have tried most types of airbox from standard to kn standard to modded box and then I had filter socks over the trumpets with just the bottom half of the box fitted and yes the induction noise is good but I found it too much as in I couldn't hear anything else it was just induction roar so I know have the socks with the top half back on with the seal on so I have the best of both types

Yes I remember seeing a post about those filter socks, was it on the old forum? Was quite interested in giving that a go, then the Hooked set up happened when I went for a 12000 service and fettle a few years back at AP (as you do)! I love the noise tho! Hard to imagine the Ape without it lol!
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Originally posted by redratbike redratbike wrote:

The APRILIA RSV MILLE OPEN AIRBOX FILTER consists of two
parts. Remove the top-lid of the airbox. Install the small filter and next
install the main filter. No modifications needed to the airbox. The
main filter can be installed on the original place with the original
bolts. The wide foam material offers a barely measurable air
resistance! The surface is as large as possible. The filters are
impregnated with MWR special oil, so that even the smallest dust
particles adhere.The oil and filter materials are naturally
non-flammable!





They do another 2 types check the link

http://www.bellissimoto.com/MWRAprilia.html


cheers I can see how it works now Thumbs Up

I take it the spring included in the other type MWR is there to stop the filter foam getting sucked into the inlet trumpets?
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The spring and filter cage ion the MWR Racing EVO Air Filter are there to maintain the filter shape.
I have the one in images above with the red alloy top - impressive sound
Dont expect to see any real power improvements until I get one of the modded collectors and a FORZA chip.
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Back on topic, there's some that say a couple of 10mm spacers under the front tank bolts helps with cooler air for open type box. Might give this a go if it doesn't look too fugly. Was thinking of Edwards type tubes and old type/bigger boot as well, as even tho it's no longer a pressurized airbox, it can't hurt to help move away hotter air from engine and heatsoak etc. Unless there is any issues with turbulence around the stacks or something.

Those MWR kits look well thought out.
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is there any issue with the filter media been so cose to the inlet trumpets, obviously getting the foam sucked up by the engine is a potential issue but I was thinking more of the relationship between the lip of the trumpets and underside of the filter, would there be any benefit in fitting shorter trumpets ?
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No worries mate, glad it sorted it for you (Spock? Bones?!)

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I think AP are supposed to be making their own Hooked version, anybody know when they are going to become available?(f
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chased up today ......the air filters are here already ready to go ...

these bad boys are gonna be ready for this season no probs!!

watch this space!

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Originally posted by boxer bloke boxer bloke wrote:

Cheers Red,
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Originally posted by fusebox fusebox wrote:

chased up today ......the air filters are here already ready to go ...

these bad boys are gonna be ready for this season no probs!!

watch this space!

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I hope you got enough made up! These are gonna go like hot cakes!

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