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    Posted: 28 Dec 2015 at 14:49
I have had my bike stored in my mates garage for the past 6 weeks and I fetched it back yesterday and the battery was completely dead.
So the battery has been on charge over night and I have just put it on my bike and it won't start?
There is nothing it's not even trying.
I have checked fuses etc and they are all ok.
I was wondering what to check next?
Battery is fine as I have my meter on it, lights etc all good.
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Still messing and getting cold.
I have bridged the starter solenoid with a screwdriver and the starter motor came to life so if im right i need a new starter relay?
How much are the uprated ones guys?
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Update. After a phone call to Griff it looks like it's the starter relay so I have the uprated one on order.
What a top bloke Griff is
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Originally posted by fasteddy fasteddy wrote:

Update. After a phone call to Griff it looks like it's the starter relay so I have the uprated one on order.
What a top bloke Griff is
was he open today? On a bank holiday


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Yes he was bored at home so he went into work for a bit. I was lucky really
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Originally posted by fasteddy fasteddy wrote:

Yes he was bored at home so he went into work for a bit. I was lucky really
yeah that's man code for the family's driven me nuts over the last few days need some space

I've spent the last 2 days knocking a wall down in the garden....


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I'm glad he did go in today as we had a good talk about my bike
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Did it spark a bit with the old screwdriver trick lol, I used a pair of long nose pliers and they almost melted Pmsl...!

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Plenty of sparks lol but as soon as starter kicked in I was pretty sure the solenoid was duff that's why I rung Griff
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Fitted new starter solenoid and its still the same?
Phoned Griff and after a bit of fiddling found out whats wrong. Turned out the immobiliser was faulty so after a quick bybass and bit of soldering it now runs.
Just got to figure out what to do next ie leave it bypassed or fix the immobiliser?
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Get rid of the immobiliser , they are a huge pita and killer of batteries to boot.
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If you have the stock Gen2 Zardi immobilisor I would just leave it bypassed. If offers minimal protection anyway and @ £180 to replace it's just not worth it.
 
You could always cut it open and re solder the almost certain to be there bad joints and see if that fixes it but sometimes the board is too far gone to fix if it's been arcing.
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Yes its just the gen 2 stock immobiliser. I will leave it bypassed for a bit until i get round to opening it up.
Griff said there was something else he could do and it wasnt very expensive but i cant remeber what he said
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Just a rider to this too. If you read the owners manual,it tell's you that the bike will lose enough charge over the period of a month to fail to start the bike. Actually advizes to run the bike weekly or put on a charger. Also say's to remove the 30Amp fuse for long storage too.
I used to be uncertain , but now i'm not sure anymore
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Originally posted by Shyted Shyted wrote:

Just a rider to this too. If you read the owners manual,it tell's you that the bike will lose enough charge over the period of a month to fail to start the bike. Actually advizes to run the bike weekly or put on a charger. Also say's to remove the 30Amp fuse for long storage too.


Yeah, people forget this when the bikes aren't used regularly, even without an immobiliser (And for Gen1 too) the ECU is drawing a constant current to maintain dash functions etc. It's the same with modern cars if they are not driven although the somewhat batteries tend to maintain things for slightly longer.

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