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    Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 22:27
What a year, but I am close to getting this Superstock finished at last and then back to the Aprilia which hasn't been run for two years. The Superstock has been to Seton tuning and been flashed, mapped and rider's aid package loaded on so all the traction control has changed. The hp has gone up to 207 at the back wheel, tbh I wasn't really bothered about that just that throttle sorted. Also the wheelie control cuts one cylinder at a time not all four at once like oem. Got four race maps all full power with varying engine braking.
Managed to find some Hong-Kong plastics for it and the paint finish was a complete surprise, never expected that for what they cost, a bargain. Two bikes, the factory has been ridden since 2018 and the Superstock since Almeria last October. Hopefully it will will be finished and the Aprilia too before the end of the year. All I want to do is ride them next year no more work as that will be both finished. Next winter a thumb brake for the Rideo Bull and that is it. Almeria in April, going with my mate who's just bought a 2020 Aprilia RSV4, a run it in and it had a engine management light, they could not sort it so they are giving him a new bike. He reckons it awesome, but I ain't getting no more bikes, so the R1 is rather special so is the factory.
I will be back on the forum in the general section as I start on the Aprilia in the winter. I gave missed riding the Aprilia, a lot more enjoyable than the Rodeo on the road. 
Be intresting to see how the Aprilia and the 5 year old R1 matches up. I am hoping it will be close, I going to have a go on the Aprilia at Almeria to see what it is like, and no I won't buy one 🀣, i couldn't part with the two bikes I got πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘
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Those r1’s are a stunning bike and it’s got some serious go, very nice.
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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

Those r1’s are a stunning bike and it’s got some serious go, very nice.
Thanks hemi, talking about serious go, your latest acquisition is very impressive in  that department also that has been on a carbon diet tooπŸ˜‚πŸ‘.
I think hemi that is as late as  I want to go with my bikes, although I liked the the 2020 RSV4 and it an amazing bike that my friend bought, it is of the peg bike. It can adjust the suspension for every corner on a circuit which is amazing and from road settings to race, just at the touch of a button and loads more.
Maybe I am just getting old, or I just like modified bikes, but I don't seem to long for the new bikes like I did when I was younger. Whenever I take the R1 or the Aprilia out, which has been a while 🀣. There is always interest shown in them and questions asked. I have put so much effort into both bikes I really couldn't part with either of them.
The one thing about that R1 I absolutely love is the exhaust note, and when you are riding it, even more impressive.
I would love to hear your feedback on that rocket you just bought, that is going to some fun and super quick with that weight and that power. I hope you get a chance to have a proper ride on it soon. Should have bought something like that myself, all the work done and someone's wallet took a serious hiding for the a  work plus serious parts  that are on it πŸ˜‚πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘πŸ‘
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Paul at pcr performance had an r1 in that he’d converted to track spec for a customer, cost £35,000 in total and the guy did 400 miles on it and decided he didn’t want it as all his mates had bought s1000rr’s and he wanted one of those, I was offered it for £16,000 but had just bought all the bits for my gixxer, out of all the modern il4’s the r1 is what I’d buy. I can’t wait to get out on the blade if we get some dry weather soon, gonna be a learning curve.
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Mine is up to 20k, so that bike you was offered was an absolute bargain. I was offered some PFM brakes for it which I would have bought, but I got some hpk calipers and discs already so I turned it down, and they would have been another step up. We took a R1 with 330mm pfms like you have as well, and when you was behind it on track, you had to stay staggered as it used scrub speed off in way that looked unrealπŸ˜‚. 
I saw a fast rider on that bike and it come down the start and finish straight and make five places, it was shocking, even more so for the riders that it passed πŸ˜‚. 
I don't think I will build anymore, I think I will take a page out your book and buy something like the bikes you buy, also you have no chance of getting your money back if you build your own. Where as that one that PCR R1 at that price you would always be safe and probably make a profit if you were to sell it. 
I reckon that blade weighs less than mine for sure and with them wheels it will spin up very quickly. 
I think you might get a bit of shock, that is proper light, let me know how get on, and hold on tight πŸ˜‚. 
When I bought that R1 and it was virtually in its oem guise, my mate said keep your chest on the tank when you come out the corners, I thought he was exaggerating, but when it wheelied cranked over the and the got into a tank slap, after that I did cover the tank with my chest and threw out the electronic damper too. 
You got to be on top of them bikes all the time, otherwise in a spilt second you got problems that start mounting up the fast πŸ˜‚
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I think your Factory is a beautiful bike but that superstock is a machine! In Spain too without noise restrictions I bet is sounds menacing. Don't sound friendly do they πŸ˜‚

You'll have to let us know how those granny knitted tyre warmers go 🀭
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Lovely stuff 

I was once following Phil Seton in an endurance race albeit briefly. 

It was very very wet and coming out of red gate I noticed he tapped the power on with little bike protest and so thought, I’ll have a slice of that thank you and promptly high-sided whilst his R1 happily made traction control type stutter noises off into the distance 

He destroyed one at Brands in practice day prior to race and overnight went and got and rebuilt another machine out of this replacement road bike 
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Hi blacklines, since it came back from Seton it sounds angry, the crossplane engine always felt lazy when reviewing, not like my Trevor Nation NW200 motor which was a bit of full Yohsi GS 1000 with no rotor on it, so that would make it responsive πŸ˜‚.
But that motor and the RGB 500 MK7 motor were always almost frightening, I say that more exiting mixed with that, I used to get off both of them and I couldn't even make a roll up with my handson  because they used to shake so much. The RGB I only had a few goes on as it weren't mine, and I got a go on it when the rider was injured πŸ˜‚.
I was expecting the R1 to be the same as those two, but somehow it wasn't. I  don't know if it was the electronics, whichI  were holding it back, on track I rode in TC1, it just wasn't right.But now I can down to half nearly at 40% reduction 😬
But i think that has all changed, hopefully I will find out soon. When it starts now it's weird, the revs go up and down really strange, and it does the same thing every time.
The noise of them is so unique, it is the strangest noise, it has the gp can on it now which looks miles better, but it retains the two silencers in the belly pan. The Aprilia hurt my ears on the Aprilia day, but I don't know if it was my bike or all the V4s on track 😁.
I have a credit with FE from this April gone and it has to be used up by May next year. So we are hoping to go to Almeria next April. It would be great if you could come too, we normally do five days which is about 475 quid, proper bargain that.
Then Portimao I would like to go to as well. 
Have you rode there at all?  I heard it is properHilly and braking down hill at the end of the straight 😁.
They will resurface it before the GP this year so it will be worth a look. 
As soon as I first ride that Superstock after this work, I will know if it is sorted. It has took a lot of sorting out too, the Yoyodyne slipper, the autoblipper and the the throttle made it difficult to ride, around the Melbourne loop it was so bad I had to slip the clutch, the Aprilia was ten times better and that is a twin. 
I have either wasted a lot of money or finally got the bike I wanted πŸ˜‚. 
If you come to Spain, you can take it out for a session, give you a workout, it is very stable tbf, and you can lay blacklines as your namesake everywhere πŸ˜‚. 
I have changed so much on it, it is going to feel like a different bike, got some Seton clipons that feel like motocross bars πŸ˜‚, they are the Rodeo Bull's horns you will need them to hold on to it. πŸ˜‚. I have changed the brake pads from SC2s Brembo to SBS Race sintered. I went to look at dual sintered sbs 334quid ffs πŸ˜‚.
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Hi blacklines, since it came back from Seton it sounds angry, the crossplane engine always felt lazy when reviewing, not like my Trevor Nation NW200 motor which was a bit of full Yohsi GS 1000 with no rotor on it, so that would make it responsive πŸ˜‚.
But that motor and the RGB 500 MK7 motor were always almost frightening, I say that more exiting mixed with that, I used to get off both of them and I couldn't even make a roll up with my handson  because they used to shake so much. The RGB I only had a few goes on as it weren't mine, and I got a go on it when the rider was injured πŸ˜‚.
I was expecting the R1 to be the same as those two, but somehow it wasn't. I  don't know if it was the electronics, whichI  were holding it back, on track I rode in TC1, it just wasn't right.But now I can down to half nearly at 40% reduction 😬
But i think that has all changed, hopefully I will find out soon. When it starts now it's weird, the revs go up and down really strange, and it does the same thing every time.
The noise of them is so unique, it is the strangest noise, it has the gp can on it now which looks miles better, but it retains the two silencers in the belly pan. The Aprilia hurt my ears on the Aprilia day, but I don't know if it was my bike or all the V4s on track 😁.
I have a credit with FE from this April gone and it has to be used up by May next year. So we are hoping to go to Almeria next April. It would be great if you could come too, we normally do five days which is about 475 quid, proper bargain that.
Then Portimao I would like to go to as well. 
Have you rode there at all?  I heard it is properHilly and braking down hill at the end of the straight 😁.
They will resurface it before the GP this year so it will be worth a look. 
As soon as I first ride that Superstock after this work, I will know if it is sorted. It has took a lot of sorting out too, the Yoyodyne slipper, the autoblipper and the the throttle made it difficult to ride, around the Melbourne loop it was so bad I had to slip the clutch, the Aprilia was ten times better and that is a twin. 
I have either wasted a lot of money or finally got the bike I wanted πŸ˜‚. 
If you come to Spain, you can take it out for a session, give you a workout, it is very stable tbf, and you can lay blacklines as your namesake everywhere πŸ˜‚. 
I have changed so much on it, it is going to feel like a different bike, got some Seton clipons that feel like motocross bars πŸ˜‚, they are the Rodeo Bull's horns you will need them to hold on to it. πŸ˜‚. I have changed the brake pads from SC2s Brembo to SBS Race sintered. I went to look at dual sintered sbs 334quid ffs πŸ˜‚.
GPFAX? πŸ€” 

Part of that relative laziness might also be engines getting more easy to ride as time goes on. See it even in cars too don't you. Sometimes excitement doesn't always equal speed. 

Yeah would love to ride Almeria and they do seem cheap trips. Got another baby on the way in March though and promised my wife I'd be off track for next couple years while they're little. Or she tells me I did anyway, ha, just when I was planning a day at Cadwell recently 😭

I've only ever ridden my Mille (stock, about 115hp probably) and Mark's k7 750 which are both in completely different worlds to your R1. Reckon it'd take commitment to hold it wide open down the straights. Proper warp speed I bet.

Yeah I think if you're looking that kind of money for pads I'd be more looking Brembo Z04. At least you know then they'd also last well. SBS DC carbon for me next time. 
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Yeah Portimao looks good, never been myself. Looks a proper rollercoaster. There's crests where some bikes jump and that really fast left hander that runs through a massive dip. Haven't seen another track like it. 

In Spain I've ridden Catalunya and Parcmotor. Recommend both. Catalunya is one of the best circuits in the world and Parcmotor is a very heavily underrated circuit. Half the track runs uphill, then the other half comes back down. The downhill section you go over a bridge into a right, then a tighter right, then double apex left. Feels great on the brakes.


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Lovely stuff 

I was once following Phil Seton in an endurance race albeit briefly. 

It was very very wet and coming out of red gate I noticed he tapped the power on with little bike protest and so thought, I’ll have a slice of that thank you and promptly high-sided whilst his R1 happily made traction control type stutter noises off into the distance 

He destroyed one at Brands in practice day prior to race and overnight went and got and rebuilt another machine out of this replacement road bike 
Hi wigginsjp, I am glad you see traction control in a favorable way, I had some friends say it's cheating, they may say that but when you have that much hp at the back wheel it would be more than a handful. When I was at Almeria, which wasn't a great trip as I had a few problems, but towards the end of the five days coming onto the back straight with that slide control was the biggest gun I had in ages. The hardest thing to get used to it wheeling out of corners cranked over, I have got used to it now. Trusting the electronics is not easy but the more often it does things like that the more you get acustomed to it.
Unless you want to ride classic bikes, I don't see a problem with TC. I get just as much enjoyment from riding the Aprilia, it is just different.  The way i look at it, it is available and you can have fun with a little safety, like my leathers a bit expensive but I really can't afford much more damage to the right shoulder.
I did ask Phil what it is like in mode 1 , he laughed and said lively, very lively 🀣. I will ride it in 3, as he does, but shall give it a little go on a straight bit of road to see how lively it really is 😝.
My hardest thing to learn, which I am getting better at is going into the corners with a closed throttle, found it very alien at first, but like the electronics, I am getting used to it. They are all teaching this now, even when I watched Simon Crafer moto and voodoo guide to Almeria he says the same.
It shocked me how the bike holds such a tight line, but the tyres have changed massively in a quarter of a century, the time I had off track 🀣. One more day of tuition at Almeria and I will get the hang of closed throttle corner entry. 
Tbh I think if anyone rode these bikes with massive bhp with the electronics, I think they would be lying if they said I would rather ride without it, or they must be immensely talented 🀣.
Smashing yourself up is no fun and in your later year it comes back to haunt you. My late friend was going to move toa hotter climate as his body would hurt in damp conditions. 
Anything that prevents injury is a good thing, and they are no less exciting to ride, it will be common thing soon and you can buy virtually 10year old bikes with TC.
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blacklines you will be OK on the beast, it demands a bit of respect or it will have your pant down 🀣.
The handling is out of this world, the Ohlins forks are Darren's personal forks from MCT which have been modified by him so quite unique, whilst they may not make you faster they are very forgiving as I found out when I got it a bit crossed up 🀣.
It will be a great experience fir ya, just watch it out of corners, it is like being fired out a cannon, it has them big bars on it, Ohlins steering damper, just remember to be over the front of it, otherwise it want to come out of your hands. You can control it better especially if the front starts rising. 
It only has full power maps now, no rain map. 
I am sure you will enjoy it. Might take your breath away girt few laps, you don't have to go flat out even at half its power it's quick, just stay in your comfort zone and it will be a great experience. 
Yes I want to go to Catalunya, my mate loves it there.
But Portimao I want to do after Almeria. 
My mate stayed in a hotel on the circuit or very close by and he took a picture of it from his room, and roller-coaster is how he described it, said that down hill braking take some balls.
They have two blind crests at Almeria, the one before turn 3 is nice, but as you go over it and you are turning in blind, it unloads the suspension. You don't want to be doing any silly inputs over that rise, our mate did and he went into that desert, I was watching on top of the garages and it looked like a mushroom cloud off an Atomic bomb, the bike looked like it had the bomb dropped off on it πŸ˜‚ 🀣 πŸ˜‚.
I will post on here when it is ready for booking πŸ‘. 
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Ha no, at the time and money poor stage right now but richer for it in other ways. I see a lot of people stop when they have kids and then don't come back for a long time. It's a real passion for me and only just getting started really so I definitely want to get back to it as soon as is realistic. Wanting to try my hand at racing when I do too. 

Catalunya you spend most of the lap leaned over. Only really have a break on the front straight, then you're either braking or cornering until you get back to the start again. Reckon you'd be easily doing over 180mph down the front straight there. About 1km long and you hit it from a fast right hander. Was doing 155mph on the Mille (redline in 6th with 15/42 gearing) but losing over a hundred metres down that straight to R1s and V4s. Was amazing the speed difference, especially being used to places like Cadwell where power doesn't make that much difference.



I really want to ride Jerez. Always like the look of it there, some good long and fast corners. 

Never ridden a bike with TC before. Luckily with the Mille the combination of low power, torquey output and predictable power delivery have meant any slides I've had so far have felt easy to control.
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Haha, we have done that skint stage too, signing cheques with a 50 quid guarantee card for engine rebuilds and the getting arethe best  cards taken away 🀣.
By the end of the season we looked like tramps 🀣. 
You are doing it the right way, I didn't buy a house till I was 29 years old 🀣.
When we were at Almeria there was a gen 1 with twenty stone rider on it, he was unpredictable too, I showed a bit of patience overtook coming on to the back straight, I gave him as much of a gap as possible. I know what you mean about speed difference , that R1 was like a missile going past him.
188 is what I clocked down there, Chris on the Hoops R1 with PFM brakes and he was in the fast group clocked 193", they were probably going faster because of the 200/60 tyres and they weren't M models so only supposed to run 190s.
Braking from them speeds is a bit different too, they gain so much ground so quickly. That Hoops bike with the Nova gearbox was ballistic, the gears were  close it sounded like a seamless box.
You won't notice the TC working especially around 3 and down, but out of the Melbourne loop I really thought it was going to fall over I was asking for power and it would only give me as much as i would ask for, because of the RBW throttle. The first time it started to slide I came back into the pits and asked and they said it will only let it go out 4 to 5 inches and no more, so I went out the next session and found that is all that happened, and left mist of the slick on the corner😁. You would love it, that is one thing that is hard to beat on that bike the corner exit with slide control is gradual too.
The abs is removed, if you change the master it can get worse, I didn't want to chance it, if the back wheel lifts I heard it will release the brake πŸ˜‚. You will be a convert of the electronics for sure. 
I will post on here the difference after the mapping in a couple of weeks, I really don't know what to expect πŸ€”πŸ˜¬πŸ™„πŸ˜œ
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Yeah I've heard bad things about ABS causing you to run on. Realistically you're not going to lock the front on the brakes are you. Not upright anyway. 

Ha heifers on gen 1s. I was 106kg (over 16.5 stone) but I've been losing weight lately, down to just under 100kg now. At 6'6" that is though so carrying some fat but not obese. Whenever I think about how much the Mille weighs and how big it is compared to modern stuff I just remember that I'm not exactly Pedrosa either πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Slide control sounds amazing. If it's fairly subtle and seamless then it can only be a good thing can't it. And necessary when you're looking at 207hp. I always imagine the Mille being like a tractor, when they spin their wheels they don't spin up really quickly but just continue to rotate a bit faster than the ground. Built in traction control. Compare that to my mate who high sided out of barn at Cadwell on his 750. With next to no warning it went from gripping, to breaking traction, to spinning right up in revs. He's not ridden since and is only really just getting over the injuries.

With either a lot of power or that kind of power delivery you really want something to catch that. Otherwise if you don't want a crash that stops you ever riding again you'll just always have to leave a lot of margin for error. With the opportunity to just do controlled slides out of corners I think most of us would take it. And what quick rider would say no. There's bravado but only from people who don't know what they're talking about. Lots say no to ABS but I never hear anyone say to disconnect TC.


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6ft 6" haha, Adam (Padded cell) whom I offered a go on the R1 said he would have leg surgery to fit into it 😁.
Might have to drop the rear sets for you, Adam is 6ft4", that's the trouble nowadays for tall riders, the sports bikes are ridiculously small. I think the BMW is the roomiest sports bike now, the new Aprilia is tiny too, my mate who had one for 3 weeks before he gave it back, said it was smaller than the R1.
I hope your mate makes a full recovery, if all this safety was around when I was younger, I would have done my best to afford it. It is even more important when you're younger as you can't really afford to have much time out of work. I guess when you are older you don't mend as quick, I don't know if I want to go through that pain again if i can help it. 
To be honest I tried to provoke the abs on the road but I really couldn't get it to cut in, I have lifted the back sometimes, so I thought it would be best if it was not on. 
The race abs is incredible and can cope with track conditions, well for trackday riding. There's a difference between the two, the race even let's you brake lent over, I think the Aprilias have had it for a while. 
I wouldn't be without abs, but I would still take the Aprilia on track. I take some liberties with that rsv but it never complains and has never faltered, but it has had a lot done to it. 
When we go back to the hotel in Spain after a day on track, they said that I was laying black lines everywhere, I didn't believe them but Simon had followed me around for three laps and videoed it. 
Tbh i was shocked, it is a hard thing to explain to someone, it is something that you have to experience. 
I overtook a sit up and beg Suzuki 750 on the inside, and I wanted not to be in his way as he went wide and was tipping in too.
I opened that throttle up just a tad too quick, and it lifted the front and spun up the back and I wasn't upright haha. 
I need to explore what you can get away with it but it is difficult, sometimes you think that was cool, but you realise it wasn't you, so it is always in the background but very difficult to say when it   is assisting you.πŸ‘
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I think that's all flexibility to be honest. I mean I can squat down so I'm sat on my heels so no pegs are too high for me. I have them as high as they go on the Mille too. More important is a nice stretch to the clipons. And being able to fit knees under the sharp tank cutout on the plastic tank gen 1. I've sat on an RSV4 at a bike show and though it looks tiny it feels at least as comfy as my old barge. Obviously just look a bit silly whatever bike I ride ha.

Mike Edwards has ABS on his S1000rr and he says he has no grief with it. It's possible that modern ABS is that good it doesn't create issue and maybe it's just a hangover from the early days of ABS. Though I've also heard generally it's been better on European bikes than Japanese. 

Yeah I've had the same thing with the black lines. You don't even know you're doing it at the time do you. Think it's the beauty of the RSV in how controllable it is. Might lack power but you can definitely get it down sooner. Where even a 600 would give little moments, the RSV just lays down rubber while driving forward. Then the 600 glides by on the straight πŸ˜‚ You should try sticking a rear facing camera on.



Or did you mean you were doing that with the R1? 

Wheelspinning wheelies while leant over ha. The electronics must be decent to allow that and not just leave you wanting more power it refuses to give you. I think if you're too hamfisted it has to take more drastic measures to keep things in check so it must be a combination of you and the electronics. That's half the work of GP riders isn't it, being smooth enough to reduce how much the electronics interfere. Think power is always in surplus and it's just a case of what % of the available power the electronics can let through.
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Yes I meant the R1 it lays  rubber down all the time, but the tyre wear is really good. It sometimes does feel like a GP bike when it does antics like that time I undertook the Suzuki, you know it ain't you, you might like to to think so haha, but it is the electronics.
That is the hardest thing to get used to, I have only done two trackdays on it,but like the rsv it's all testing really. It took me some time to get the rsv sorted. The R1 is almost there now if that throttle has a smooth transistion from closed to open, with the tweeked rider's aids it will be some bike. 
The old dog just has to learn some new tricks to ride it, I rode it a day forgetting about the autoblipper, that is amazing aid too., if you remember to use it hahaπŸ‘
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The bike is a monster Rich and I've loved watching it take shape!

It's stunning and a credit to you mate Clap Clap Clap
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Originally posted by Diablo Diablo wrote:

The bike is a monster Rich and I've loved watching it take shape!

It's stunning and a credit to you mate Clap Clap Clap
Thanks Rick, it has took a lot of time and money. I don't know why I can't leave bikes alone. I wanted it a bit like the Aprilia which took some time to get there. This one is much the same, I know where I want to be with it, I will find out very soon if have achieved the performance, and if  it is pulling cleanly on the throttle. 
I would like a ride on it before it is winterised. Then the Aprilia, I want them both ready for the spring. We will try to get a few us together for a ride then  too πŸ‘ 
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Great to see you back too bud love seeing all these trick machines. 
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Great to see you back too bud love seeing all these trick machines. 
Hi Adam,I hope you're keeping well mate. How the trackbike and that lovely Triumph? I hopefully can get this Superstock finished the I am looking forward to getting the Aprilia on the bench, sort the clutch out, service. Fit the Corsa Corta clutch master and the PFM rear caliper. It will be nice to hear it again, it has been silent for two years now. Adam if you come across a smoked indicator lenses, give us a shout. It is the nearside one I want. They ain't a easy to find. When you coming to Spain with us, a few us could go from this forum, RSV. net forum Spanish Jolly outing on track πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘
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Hey mate , I'm doing really well just about to get into my new job and really looking forward to it. 675 is running like a dream, ZX6R has had a bit of time and money thrown at it and I've done a couple of days on it and a foreign trip is high on the agenda so that sounds good to me bud!
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Re indicator I'll keep an eye out for yaWink be great for you to get that ape on the road again although the stocker sounds loopy
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Thanks Adam, glad you are keeping well. Yes it might be a bit psychotic in Pwr1, I have been told to keep away from that, unless I am very brave πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚.
We will see, I got a camera that I might stick on it and film the nutter. Trackdays are going nuts, I see that girl overtake someone in the novice group tangle up with him, basically smash into him sideways, take him of the bike, the bike is doing cartwheels totally smashed up. She doesn't look around and carry on as nothing had happened. Then somone apologising because hua sump plug fell out and few people got taken off on the oil. 
Yes let's all go to Spain or Portugal, hopefully we won't meet up  them idiots there πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ‘
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Drop me a message when you are booking the trip I've got a bit saved up and I'd love to come Rich
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I would love you to come Adam, I  drop will you a message and post it on here. But before I will get the names of everyone who is interested and see if we can book a date which suits the majority. Plus anyone that wants to come just for the sunshine and be on trackside, I think it was 30 quid for B&B for friends and relatives.
At present there is only one date for Almeria in Feb, I guess they are waiting to see how this Covid situation pans out. 
We were thinking of the end of April, Portimao is one at that time for 3 days, but for the same money we could get 5 days in Almeria. They are going to resurface it soon in redines for the last motogp. I heard it is tough circuit to get grips with, saying that I thought the same about Almeria, hating it for the first couple of days, warming to it the next couple of days and then loving it for the last two 🀣😁.
Portimao is very hilly and up and down, a lot of blind crests and braking down hill at the end of the straight 😜.
I doubt you will want to do any UK days after that, I will give M9rko a shout too, they had a baby about a year ago and I think he was taking a little break.
You can have a go on the Rodeo Bull too, it has great handling with top drawer suspension, brakes and wheels, so it is easy to ride. To tip it in takes no effort, just think about it and it is into the turn. Also it would be a great opportunity for a few of us to meet, spend some time on track, and and mix that with a few beers in the evenings and sunshine. That would be a great  laugh  and memorable trip for all. I think Diablo should come with us too, I think we could all do with a little break after this year πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘
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Everybody should do foreign trackdays at least once,trouble is after 3 or 4 days on a decent track in the sun suddenly a wet Cadwell loses it's attraction LOL

They can be incredible value for money although the overall cost can double by the time you factor in flights,car hire and beer.

I would think flights would be the clincher now as even Ryanscare have grounded most of their fleet so what flights there are will be sought after and as a result more expensive.


Do yourself a favour and give these guys a try


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Like we discussed on the phone ages ago Rich I'm well up for it especially now I've changed jobs and actually get paid holiday! Either Feb or April ia good for me as long as I get enough warning to arrange time off and my missus can also to watch the girls. It would be great to get away with you lot definitely a RSVR.NET jolly! Ian I've heard good things about pacedayz and al so redline. Trouble is as you say everybody I know who's done one said that the UK days fall well short in comparison . 
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2 Spanish trips haven't ruined UK circuits for me. Though I reckon portimao will make Cadwell feel like a go kart track. 
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