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Yeah, but currently the bike doesn't have forks tyres etc. Installing them back just to change the mount point would be a big pain. Any way engine can be dropped without touching the swingarm bolts? Probably not....I am hating this rebuild now. Nothing going smoothlyAngryCry
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The engine is bloody heavy, I put a wheeled dolly under the engine then lifted the frame off the engine! 
If the bike is stripped that far it might be easier for you????
on my licence it says "tear down the dotted line" so I DO!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaressveeguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 21:29
hmmm, I am thinking of getting it off the stand with some wooden crate underneath the engine to support the weight and then to remove the swingarm bolt. And then like you said-basically lift the frame off the engine.
Btw here are some photos of oil leakage in various places. Still unsure if it has found its way there from the valve covers...


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Damn, oil everywhere. It's like bike got Ebola ...bleeding from every orifice





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote badapple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 09:36
ah now I see the issue 
I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left
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Removed radiator and oil cooler. Two bolts snapped while removing the radiator bracket.
Think should have left the bracket in place. Another problem to solve now :(

Anyways, can someone tell me if the throttle bodies can be on the engine or have to be removed before dropping. Looks like they can be although clearance would be very tight.
If they have to be removed, what is the normal way? Removing the bodies with the coupling remaining on the intakes or removing the throttle bodies with the coupling? 
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progress has been slow and setbacks many. the neutral position sensor wire screw won't come out -the slot has now been eaten by the screwdriver. I see it's just 1 wire. Can I simply cut it and then later solder a spade connector or there is some catch?
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Originally posted by aaressveeguy aaressveeguy wrote:

progress has been slow and setbacks many. the neutral position sensor wire screw won't come out -the slot has now been eaten by the screwdriver. I see it's just 1 wire. Can I simply cut it and then later solder a spade connector or there is some catch?
that would wrk 


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Originally posted by aaressveeguy aaressveeguy wrote:

Removed radiator and oil cooler. Two bolts snapped while removing the radiator bracket.
Think should have left the bracket in place. Another problem to solve now :(

Anyways, can someone tell me if the throttle bodies can be on the engine or have to be removed before dropping. Looks like they can be although clearance would be very tight.
If they have to be removed, what is the normal way? Removing the bodies with the coupling remaining on the intakes or removing the throttle bodies with the coupling? 
its 2 screws for the throttle bodies to be pulled off then you can hang them to one side of the frame with all the throttle cable still connected


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thanks red. Re, the bodies,they have now come off. I just loosened the steel band screws and let the coupling on the intakes, a little wiggle and the bodies were free. They came off with the throttle cables intact. Had to detach the fast idle adjuster cable though, hopefully won't be huge pain reinstalling.
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simple to stick back on. 
Just ensure you undo the clamps as far as you can so you have more wiggle room 
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I meant the fast idle cable not the throttle bodies wigginsjp :)

on dropping the engine, Haynes says remove all right side engine bolts and then left. Sounds a bit odd to me, is this the right order of undoing the bolts?
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Where to get fuel line for the Mille? Mine is kinked and was in contact with the rear head resulting in bit of burn through...
Also, how do I get hold of Johnboy cables?
Oh and does anyone know if the swingarm locknut is the same dimension as the top yoke locknut? Or would I need a new castle socket for that? Want the swingarm bearings done, would be foolish not to with this amount of stripping already done....
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Is it the return fuel line or the braided feed line?, you can get the cables from AP or johnboy who is on this site, just do a search for him.
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providing it's the right length it should do. 

The OEM part was about £17 new but I just looked it up and the superseded part is now £89! 


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Or take the original to your local Pirtek and they will make one up for you.
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It was expensive years ago and as legend says if you have a pirtek nearby give them a try, they charged me a tenner but it was a Saturday morning 😏
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Thanks lads. I am pretty sure I don't want to spend £89 for the oem part :D
I'll measure the length and see if the ebay one will fit although £5 seems too cheap.
I'll try Pirtek , they are not far from me.

Now, is there a gasket which needs to be renewed when the clutch and alternator cover goes back in?
There's some leak at the right side near the water pump, but it definitely is from the clutch cover.
I couldn't see any gasket in the oem parts fiche...is it just an RTV/sealant ?
Ebay does have some Athena clutch cover gasket listings for the mille though...

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The diaphragm for the slipper clutch doubles up as the gasket for the clutch cover.
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I am after engine mounting bolt locknut remover. Can someone help? Have trawled internet like mad and ordered 3 wrong fitting parts. I am after a socket which can go into the top engine mount hole in the frame to the right.
Also snapped the two front right bolts. Was foolish trying to use the breaker bar on them. Should have used the impact wrench. Price would be a trip to a welder now. 
The snapped bolts luckily seem to have cleared the frame.
Can the engine be dropped with the spacers till intact?
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I already have this which I used to undo the lower engine locknut to the right, but the fatter end means can slide this into the top right engine nut hole in the frame


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anyone? Any ebay or amazon link? Getting desperate here now....
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Give griff at ap a ring and ask if he sells them or knows a supplier.
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Thanks hemi, Redratbike game me a link which I think will do the trick.
I am anyway not in a position to work on the bike now, got chicken pox :(
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