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    Posted: 16 Oct 2016 at 10:53
Been thinking for a while about trying either the Rizoma fat bars 15mm or Renthal fat bars 'street low' that are lower than the originals.
I definitely don't want to go down the clip on route.
Anyone with any experience with either?

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I fit Rizoma MA005 bars on mine, I much prefer them, not as wide as the OE and less rise as well so puts you leaning forward the little bit more which I liked. If your fitting them to a gen1, depending where you want your levers positioned you might be stuck for a tiny bit of clearance with the nose piece, I just slipped a pice of 3mm tubing over the lock stops to stop any contact being made. If you want exact measurements for rise and sweep etc just do a search on it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 2016 at 15:46
That seems to be the bar of choice

There is quite a discussion on this subject with comparisons and measurements on that other well known form across the waterWink
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Mmm, has anyone got round the problem of bar clearance and steering lock. Seems as usual everyone has a slightly different view and so many Rizoma options.

I will keep digging.
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I had thought about doing this as well, not sure how low I'd like to go though. Maybe dropping about 25mm would make a bit of a difference.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 2016 at 20:50
My fancy would be a bit lower,narrower and with a slight downward sort of clipon angle to the grips

I think the gen2 has enough clearance for most options


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I fitted a set of Rizoma's to my T but for the life of me i can't remember what height they are? They are certainly a little bit lower and narrower, pitch me forwards a bit more and are in a great position for me, no clearance problems apart from now I've fitted the new Accossato cylinders with hrydraulic switches, on full lock the bottom of each switch just touches the tank but that's it.
Doesn't help a great deal if I can't remember which height I fitted though
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That's ok, this one's staying standard      ...    Remember?    Embarrassed  Wink



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paddedcell100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 2016 at 22:35
Originally posted by IanG IanG wrote:

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You know, you sound like you've almost convinced yourself about that now Ian
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Don't suppose they have a specific product code on them.
Damo46 mentioned Rizoma MA005 being popular.
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Originally posted by 10acious 10acious wrote:

Don't suppose they have a specific product code on them.
Damo46 mentioned Rizoma MA005 being popular.


I'll see what I can see on them tomorrow fella, I did have the box but it's gone now.
I know I got them from moorespeedracing though so you could have a look on there in the meantime , I think they've got 3 different heights though
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Done a bit of hunting around on this one.

You are right about the 3 riser heights. They are 15mm, 30mm & 50mm.
The MA005 seem to be identical to the MA006, just colour code variants. Both are 30mm riser height which is lower than originals.
MA005 seem really hard to find but the MA006 are available on flea bay in 5 colours for £70 new.
These are the full fat tapered bars like the originals.

The 'buy it now' button is so close. Just trying to think of a good reason not to.

Link to Rizoma riser heights and code numbers

http://www.rizoma.com/universal/handlebars-clip-on-bars/ma005-008-006-009-011/en

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The Rizoma bars are not threaded at the end like the OE bars for fitting the bar ends, I wanted to use the OE bar ends as they are good and heavy just in case there were any vibrations coming through the bars with lighter aftermarket ones like r&g. Just go to B&Q or some hardware store and get some of them expanding metal walk plugs,I can check the pack later, almost certain it's 8mm wall bolts as they take the same size bolt as the OE bar ends, then get two longer Allen bolts and away you go,1/4 of the price of a new set of bar ends and you get to keep the OE ones.
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This shows the same idea, good ole del boy.

https://youtu.be/9mJG9PoymCM

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Thanks for the info. Didn't realise that. Mine didn't have the OEs when I bought it and now has bar end mirrors so no problem there.
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Yeah, like that. Clever fix. I've watched a lot of his stuff. Great tutorial on changing headstock bearings.
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I brought a tap (10 or 12mm, can't remember at the minute) and threaded each end of the Rizoma's and had a local engineering firm make me some new bar end weights for a tenner, job jobbed .
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Just a thought, are there any other risers that can be fitted to a Tuoldo that are shorter. Would save faffing about with different bars.
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Originally posted by 10acious 10acious wrote:

Done a bit of hunting around on this one.

You are right about the 3 riser heights. They are 15mm, 30mm & 50mm.
The MA005 seem to be identical to the MA006, just colour code variants. Both are 30mm riser height which is lower than originals.
MA005 seem really hard to find but the MA006 are available on flea bay in 5 colours for £70 new.
These are the full fat tapered bars like the originals.

The 'buy it now' button is so close. Just trying to think of a good reason not to.

Link to Rizoma riser heights and code numbers

http://www.rizoma.com/universal/handlebars-clip-on-bars/ma005-008-006-009-011/en



Some nice kit there if you download the complete online catalogue
 
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To download the whole catalogue wold be like inviting the demon of debt straight through the front door.

Damn sexy stuff though
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Originally posted by 10acious 10acious wrote:

like inviting the demon of debt straight through the front door.
 
ha ha I love that ..i'll quote that to the mrs next time one of her catalogues appears
 


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Originally posted by 10acious 10acious wrote:

To download the whole catalogue wold be like inviting the demon of debt straight through the front door.

Damn sexy stuff though


I'm made of sterner stuff Wink


I think Confused


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I, sadly am made of far weaker stuff, just bought a Aprilia Racing carbon hugger and chain guard.

Oops

Off to Griffs next week too

Big ooops

Airbox, collectors, chip, PC3, the big service.

Catastrophic ooops.

Hey ho! She go like stink at the end of it and look gorgeous. Well worth it, me thinks.

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Nice, I see you put the 3 stripes on the tank as well, I have done the same, not shown in the pic I put up though
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Rizomas are on their way. I'll take plenty of measurements and pics to hopefully show the difference.

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Me to,watching with interest


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Originally posted by 10acious 10acious wrote:

Rizomas are on their way. I'll take plenty of measurements and pics to hopefully show the difference.

More to come


Which ones did you go for in the end?
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MA006G These are with a 30mm rise the originals are 89mm so 61mm lower. And G for gold.
Original dimensions are here.
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Cool. Let us all know how they feel.
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