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    Posted: 04 Sep 2021 at 09:59
Hi Guys,

Not been on here in a while but looking to come back into Aprilia ownership and I'm seriously considering a Gen 1 Tuono factory (I had a standard Gen 2 Tuono for 5 years)

One has come up on the market not to far from me, is there anything in particular to look out for? It has 26k miles and a full service history. 

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Welcome back! 

I’d see who did the work on it for the history, be it owner or otherwise and also, if the bike is known to Griff. Even ask if the owner knows who AP are. Other than that just the normal aprilia areas. With the factory, condition of all the rare bits I’d look at, otherwise cracks in fork bottoms and when the dog bone was looked at or serviced along with the lower eye on the rear shock as they corrode badly and fail if not cared for. 


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Check dog bone and linkage, they need regular lubrication; upper yoke if over torqued cracks.
Find out if / when the valve clearances were checked / re shimmed.
As with most bikes these days, service history proves very little unless you actually know and trust those people who've worked on the bike. A good detailed inspection is usually a good indicator how well a bike's been looked after.
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Thanks guys, I experience of servicing the dog bones on my Gen 2 and I've heard that the bottoms are prone to being overtightened on the Ohlins forks. I'll need to check the other things you have mentioned too. All the important carbon bits look to be there and in good condition, although no carbon chain chairs but don't know if it was just the racing that had that fitted. This has came up at a bad time as I'm still trying to shift my 959 Panigale but had no interest as of yet.

He has sent over the service history, none at AP but does look like it's atleast been serviced regularly. I think it might be worth a trip anyway, about 120 miles north of where I live so would like to try and agree on it on the basis it is as he says it is.
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Service every 2000 miles sounds good.

Also, if it is 120 miles North of you, there probably isn't much other interest so you should be in a good bargaining position.
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The usual things including slave cylinder for clutch...check for leaks (in behind lower left fairing behind belly pan), starter solenoid...if the original is fitted it wants replacing with an uprated 150A one, dog bone linkage, any loud rattles or knocks, uneven tickover when warm, steering head bearing condition...oh and best checking brakes, especially rear.  Pads wear rapidly on the rears and they're not great at the best of times.  Many relocate the cylinder into airflow behind the right footpeg.  Check for any signs of crash damage and check the tank.  Any bubbling of the lacquer coat or swelling of tank, any fuel leakage under the tank, both engine off and when running?  Check frame VIN matches that on engine and handbook/service book.  Worth also checking MOT history that mileage tallies with clocks as they can reset themselves on some models.

That all done, you're good to go!  Welcome back to the fold...I've done the same and bought an rsvr.  The only bike that always put a big grin on my face every time I rode it.  New bikes may be very fast, powerful and sophisticated but have lost the magic of the raw riding experience only a big Vee60 Rotax lump can provide.  Motorcycling at its best!
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Being that I don't know much about Gen 1's can anyone tell me why the sprocket cover has half a dozen small holes in it.
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Originally posted by Vee60 Vee60 wrote:

The usual things including slave cylinder for clutch...check for leaks (in behind lower left fairing behind belly pan), starter solenoid...if the original is fitted it wants replacing with an uprated 150A one, dog bone linkage, any loud rattles or knocks, uneven tickover when warm, steering head bearing condition...oh and best checking brakes, especially rear.  Pads wear rapidly on the rears and they're not great at the best of times.  Many relocate the cylinder into airflow behind the right footpeg.  Check for any signs of crash damage and check the tank.  Any bubbling of the lacquer coat or swelling of tank, any fuel leakage under the tank, both engine off and when running?  Check frame VIN matches that on engine and handbook/service book.  Worth also checking MOT history that mileage tallies with clocks as they can reset themselves on some models.

That all done, you're good to go!  Welcome back to the fold...I've done the same and bought an rsvr.  The only bike that always put a big grin on my face every time I rode it.  New bikes may be very fast, powerful and sophisticated but have lost the magic of the raw riding experience only a big Vee60 Rotax lump can provide.  Motorcycling at its best!

This one has a set of AP rearsets fitted and have relocated the master cylinder already. You're right there is something about that engine that can't be replicated and it's one of the reasons I'm after another. When I think back now I should have kept my Gen 2 Tuono but we live and learn.
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Gen 1 rules! Wink
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Originally posted by Sparky46 Sparky46 wrote:

Being that I don't know much about Gen 1's can anyone tell me why the sprocket cover has half a dozen small holes in it.

They don't usually, so that's a bit strange. I can't think of any reason why someone would want to put holes in it.

But uprated clutch slave and AP rearsets sounds like at least one previous owner knew his onions and cared for the bike.

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Originally posted by Vee60 Vee60 wrote:

Gen 1 rules! Wink

What he said!  Thumbs Up
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Having never ridden a Gen 1 I'll have to take your word for it Smile
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I've ridden both.Smile

Main differences for me:  Gen 2 was smoother, felt smaller (although it's not much more compact), had a slightly slicker gearchange but didn't feel quite as punchy low down and had more top end rush.  It lost part of the magic of the original imho (others may prefer the Gen 2 though). It seemed to lose some of the wheelie inducing low end grunt and lower mid range strength but overall had the edge on outright power.  Handling was good and standard models felt better sorted than the Gen 1 RSV but no better than the Gen1 RSVR which some prefer because it just feels more like you ride in rather then on it.  RSVR Gen1's are my pick of the bunch Smile
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Originally posted by Vee60 Vee60 wrote:

I've ridden both.Smile

Main differences for me:  Gen 2 was smoother, felt smaller (although it's not much more compact), had a slightly slicker gearchange but didn't feel quite as punchy low down and had more top end rush.  It lost part of the magic of the original imho (others may prefer the Gen 2 though). It seemed to lose some of the wheelie inducing low end grunt and lower mid range strength but overall had the edge on outright power.  Handling was good and standard models felt better sorted than the Gen 1 RSV but no better than the Gen1 RSVR which some prefer because it just feels more like you ride in rather then on it.  RSVR Gen1's are my pick of the bunch Smile
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Originally posted by Vee60 Vee60 wrote:

I've ridden both.Smile

Main differences for me:  Gen 2 was smoother, felt smaller (although it's not much more compact), had a slightly slicker gearchange but didn't feel quite as punchy low down and had more top end rush.  It lost part of the magic of the original imho (others may prefer the Gen 2 though). It seemed to lose some of the wheelie inducing low end grunt and lower mid range strength but overall had the edge on outright power.  Handling was good and standard models felt better sorted than the Gen 1 RSV but no better than the Gen1 RSVR which some prefer because it just feels more like you ride in rather then on it.  RSVR Gen1's are my pick of the bunch Smile

What you are telling me sounds familiar to what I've saw posted by a few other forum users. I was originally after a 2003 rsvr but due to my wrist which is giving me issues (long story) and having a 5jj R1 that I'm doing up another sportsbike probably isn't what I need. A Tuono Racing/Factory has the black frame, radial brakes and it's not a very common bike so that's what's making me go down that road. 
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I'd do the same I think in your shoes if one like that came up.  I have wrist issues too after a series of injuries a few years ago, so I will probably fit bar risers to my rsvr.
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Was going to go and see the Tuono today but still have shifted my Panigale yet (wrong time off year) hopefully it sells soon and the bike is still available.
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Originally posted by Sparky46 Sparky46 wrote:

Was going to go and see the Tuono today but still have shifted my Panigale yet (wrong time off year) hopefully it sells soon and the bike is still available.

mine was dubbed the unsellable bike,

you can get Early V4's quite cheap

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What were you selling? Yeah not looking to get a V4. I've had a shot of my mate 18 plate and it's an amazing machine but I just rode lick a twat the complete time I was on it. Far too easy to speed on it.
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Originally posted by Sparky46 Sparky46 wrote:

What were you selling? Yeah not looking to get a V4. I've had a shot of my mate 18 plate and it's an amazing machine but I just rode lick a twat the complete time I was on it. Far too easy to speed on it.

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yeah i suppose if you pull on the throttle your gonna speed but thats any bike, or car for that matter.

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