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Diablo
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Hi groovers
So back from getting my bike set up by Spanish Al, Lewis and Griff at our brilliant Aprilia Performance yesterday. Many thanks to the lads and G-man, for a really enjoyable, fun filled day. I'm made up with my bike. Just waiting for the rest of the carbon fairings to turn up and get a DynoJet quick shifter fitted. The only bummer of the day, was we found out that some Galfer front discs, bought from someone who I wont mention, were warped. I'll try to get a list together of the many mods done, since I last rode it! I'm feeling a bit of a sense of achievement as I have battled through a lot of pain (I'm on crutches, with a recent disc removal and fusion of 2 vertebrae mega sciatica -and a knee that isn't and desperately needs replacing. But the main thing, was using the modding as some respite from the sadness and pain of slowly losing my Mother. I've done all these mods on my own in a small container "bike workshop". Some pics... (might be somewhat repetitive, but what the hell...we love pics.) Before you comment on the old van behind, It's not mine. This WAS my bog standard 2001 RSV, reg'ed 02. It now has all the popular engine mods etc all's left to do is Big bore... But Griff's given me a new direction on that..... All mot'ed etc now. These pics are the first time it came out of the container "workshop" yesterday and the first time I could look at my bike from more than a meter away. *I didn't mean to post the last 3 engine shots. But can't seem to remove them in edit* Keep calm and carry on modding! All the best Rick |
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redratbike
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nice one Rick
I love it apart from the red hoses and carbon ....ha ha ha seriously though its looking great as I know a lot of time and cash has gone into it what's the new direction on the bigbore or not?..tell us more can you chase the seller of the galfers?
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Repetative? Who cares were just to nosey to be repetative.
The pipes look great like that,in fact i like everything except the red hoses too. But thats personal taste plus i only like black ones. Some really nice touches . Like the stainless tank too. The last photo by the van makes your bike Look menacing ,great! El DIABLO !!!! |
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Diablo
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Thanks very much guys, that means a lot.
On reflection, I would have gone for blue hoses I forgot that also next, probably carbon cans, then it's got to be BST carbon wheels. Rude not to, now that more and more on here are getting them. But hey, let me enjoy my new to me OZ's and Ohlins for a bit first eh? Cheers Mark and D.. Shyted I'll spill the beans Mark.. but for now I'll say, I'm going to be following a certain jolly nice Wotsit (there's the clue!) on here. I know you know -and prob most others know what I mean! |
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Diablo
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Right then. I'm no way going to remember everything, as it's taken about 2 and a half years whilst I've been unable to ride with my back and knee. Here goes...
Renegade 2:1:2 and RedRat (cheers Mark!) modded collector. Wrapped headers collector and underseat pipe. Copper coated header nuts. 54mm throttle bodies, short billet stacks, carbon fiber Hooked air plate, bigger early air boot, Edwards air intake tubes. New throttle cables. JS perfprmance coolant hoses and clamps. Forza Aprilia FR200 chip. Power Commander. Ohlins Radial forks and calipers, RSVR yokes and new head races, all rebuilt with new seals bushes etc. New brake pads all round. Titanium caliper and disc bolts. R+G front axle sliders. Red pointless pre-load adjusters Ohlins rear shock. Rebuilt. New dog bone bearings etc and Spooky Teflon washers. Black anodized quick release, keyless fuel cap. Changed red undertray - under seat sub-frame, to black Black anodized bolts with Aprilia motifs, "Spank the monkey", "Designed by a genius, ridden by a lunatic", "Factory racing". You can only see/read these motifs when up really close which I like. Some red anodized engine bolts, only on clutch cover and sprocket cover and fan bolts (will replace clutch ones with titanium). Oz wheels, new wheel bearings all round and sprocket carrier bearings and OZ Racing decals. New rear disc, and were Galfers on front . Thank fudge I took my old discs (perfectly good) to AP with me! Modified swing arm to accept RSV4 chain adjusters. Gilles lockable titanium rear axle nut. R+G bobbins. New 16/44 Talon sprockets and gold (both sides!) DID chain. Aprilia Performance rear sets with HRC res kit on the rear and red brake line, hydraulic brake light switch. Radial Gen 2 (for now!) clutch and brake master cylinders, with clear reservoir lines and red translucent brake lines from AP. Lock stops modified to stop levers from touching fairing. ASV shorty levers. Oberon clutch slave and red line from AP. New left hand rad and gold rad covers/protectors. New black anodized reservoir caps, with Aprilia engraved in silver. Carbon fiber brake res bracket from an RS250. Inox? stainless oil tank. Carbon fiber from lots of different manufacturers in Slovenia, Chech republic, Germany, USA, Australia,France and UK: Airpullers -the only second hand carbon on the bike. The rest is new and includes: Rear hugger, RSV4 radial front fender, in between radiator piece, coil covers, "ears" baffles on fairing upper, Pro-fiber frame covers and swing arm covers - with built in upper and lower chain guards, Carbonadi engine protectors -were MotoForza but changed them, modified Gen 2 front sprocket cover, coolant bottle cover, above dash cover, clock cover, yoke cover, RS 250 front brake res bracket, 03 rear fairing and rear cowl/hump, under tank/seat vented side panels, carbon bellypan (side fairings and upper being made atm, GeeLong large tank protector, Hooked airplate. There is a bit more I'm I know but hard to think, tired! Was up for 23 hours yesterday!! Led mod, relay and indicators - the rears being the smallest legal ones available. Led rear number plate light, brake/tail light and little driving light on front. Need Hid/led headlight still. Johnboy/Walker cable kit, Yam solenoid etc American spec sidestand. Solid as a rock. There's a fair bit more and I'll add to this. But right now, I need an afternoon nap, to catch up on my 23 hour stint! |
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Mr Miller
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That is one braw looking mo- cheen ... Now if you change the hose and wheel colours around
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Very nice looking bike.
Can you tell me what you used to wrap your headers? I have the same renegade system and i'm afraid of melting my battery box on the horizontal pipe. I've stuck some heat shield on mine but it looks a mess and your wrapping looks a much neater job. Cheers |
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Hi Rick,
You have been a busy boy, all looking super clean and very nice. the red hoses aren't for me but it's not my bike. I know you have suffered a lot recently so building a bike this clean is a real credit to you. Let me know when you are able / want to get it dirty for a Fenland run. Phil
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Full Arrows system, 1060 Big Bore, PC5 and Evo Airbox. Bring on the big grin!
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that looks right nice mate and later on ill be pervin over ya pics again and list findin stuff ill be wantin for my bike come the winter. hope ya heal quick too so ya can get out on it and have some vtwin fun
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ive just got my first vtwin and i think i got the right one
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i was jesting on the red hoses you cant see them once its all buttoned up really
i was going for j+s pipes bit every one buys them in the (samco) blue so red is a bit different
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born ugly what's your excuse!!
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Nice. Not sure I believe that van isn't yours, that could just be to put us off!Glad the fettling helped with your recovery.
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Now that is looking awesome. Just a friendly note. Keep an eye on your rear pads. Reason I say this is purely because I had one of those rear discs and it ate a set of rear pads in less than 5000 miles. I was a bit gutted as I loved the disc but pads went so quick that I was down to the plates before I knew it and I usually eyeball my pads etc at start of every month. Just keep an eye on them.
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bike looks stunnning old pal.it realy does.
exact same operation as i had. feel like mike tysons used you as a punch bag when you come round! dont fancy the knee replacement though,euugh,goes through me,the thought of it pal. the back was bad enough! very sorry to hear about your mom too mate. your certainly due some luck buddy. |
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Hahahaha , no let up then ,yes i'm suspisious too. Looking a bit crusty don't you think Dave? |
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"all's left to do is Big bore... But Griff's given me a new direction on that..... "
come on Rick come clean mate?
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Looking good, thats some list of upgrades.....
So whats this mod to the swingarm for the rsv4 chain adjusters to fit. |
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couple of yank guys have done it
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Diablo
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Cheers mate Thanks for the heads up on the rear disc I'll keep an eye on it. I've had my eye on another set of front discs, now those Galfers turned out to be warped. So prob go for a matching rear as well. |
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Thanks me ol bud, that means a lot. Still got quite a way to go with the back recovery. Their now saying 2 years and beyond to get the full benefit. I had a laminectomy as well. Keep having bouts of sciatica, but no where near as bad as it was. Sometimes, I'd work on the bike for 3 hours and need 3 days to a week to recover!! My back is actually better on a sports bike, leaning forwards, than sitting upright. It makes a bit more room for the sciatic nerve. I should really get some adjustable clip-ons for my wrists. They've had enough punishment from years on crutches! I can't wait to chop my knee out! Can't come soon enough to be honest. It's such a limiting immobilizing factor, that starts b**ering up other parts of you that have to compensate. Chop the arthritis out please! |
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No! You're not getting me on that one!! Ain't mine, no way, you've got no proof, it's a stitch up, honest guv! |
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Mark's very nearly right. I had seen part of a thread, ages ago on AF1, where someone had done it with a Dremel. I looked at it and thought that method was a bit hit and miss. I bought a hand held belt sander with a 1cm wide sanding belt, this is the width of the RSV4 chain adjusters I would be using -as it would remove the excess alloy on the swing arm evenly with good consistency over the area. I don't think you would get the accuracy and consistency you need with a Dremel. Sure you could do it, but you don't want it to look a pigs ear when the adjusters are removed. Bodging is not an option! The sander was 75 quid. I measured and measured everything again with verniers and worked out how much to remove from the upper and lower faces. Then carefully got to work, starting by removing the original forwards "stop" at the front. Then on to the first lower face, cutting a flat channel for the adjuster, stopping very frequently to measure and check everything was totally level etc. Once I'd removed what I had calculated for the lower face, then on to the upper face. More difficult, if the bike is not at eye level on a bench. But do-able, if you're handy. The Mille chain adjuster lower and upper faces are sloped. The RSV4 ones are flat. So very important to be sure to measure and check nothing is starting to float off target. I found it easy, but I am a welder/fabricator. There's some really nice Gilles RSV4 chain adjusters, that will probably find their way on at some point. |
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There's only one forum member who, it is said (not by me, I won't hear a bad word said of him), smells vaguely like Edam. Griff thinks his method's the way to go for the best gains that I want |
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so to make the money back on the 75 quid sander Rick is willing to carry out this service for a fiver to anyone elses bike ...you only need 15 people rick and you'll be sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I quite like it when I have to buy a new tool to do a job! Adds to the growing arsenal. Hey we all love tools right?
I can do mini Texas Chaisaw Massacre impersonations with it as well |
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Hello mate, I saw some on Ebay, but then got some from "Race Supplies" or someone (I'll try find who). They do heat insulation that you stick on fairings and under tanks. Get some extra stainless "cable" ties as well. I've wrapped the pipe under battery box over the original heatshield. If your tight for space and going to wrap anyway, then you'd get a few more mm removing the heatshield. Because the rear shock runs next to the rear header, the last thing it needs is another hot pipe to deal with. So I wrapped the rear header and the bit of pipe under battery box. Also put some heat insulation (4mm or 5mm) under the battery itself inside the tray. I found the key to getting more room under the battery box, was to assemble every thing loose. Then apply pressure to the right hand silencer, so you can see a bit more clearance on the right side, under battery box and do up the silencer to pipe clamp. Then the same for the left side, but trying for a bit more room between the pipes by the right of the swing arm and do up that clamp. You won't get much improvement there, it's close, but you can get enough so it doesn't foul anywhere. Then do up the collector springs. You may get a few more mm by loosening the headers before you start and tightening them last. It may be a bit different for yours, as every Rene 2:1:2 system is slightly different. Are your Rene cans round or oval? What spacers are you using under the can straps where they bolt into the under seat tray? |
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You could use the milling machine, if the swingarm is off the bike! I'm still looking for tooling for it. I like old machinery/plant auctions, so it's not so bad |
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[/QUOTE] Hello mate, I saw some on Ebay, but then got some from "Race Supplies" or someone (I'll try find who). They do heat insulation that you stick on fairings and under tanks. I've wrapped the pipe under battery box over the original heatshield. If your tight for space and going to wrap anyway, then you'd gat a few more mm removing the heatshield. Because the rear shock runs next to the rear header, the last thing it needs is another hot pipe tp deal with. So I wrapped the rear header and the bit of pipe under battery box. Also put some heat insulation (4mm or 5mm) under the battery itself inside the tray. I found the key to getting more room under the battery box, was to assemble every thing loose. Then apply pressure to the right hand silencer, so you can see a bit more clearance on the right side, under battery box and do up the silencer to pipe clamp. Then the same for the left side, but trying for a bit more room between the pipes by the right of the swing arm and do up that clamp. You won't get much improvement there, it's close, but you can get enough so it doesn't foul anywhere. Then do up the collector springs. You may get a few more mm by loosening the headers before you start and tightening them last. It may be a bit different for yours, as every Rene 2:1:2 system is slightly different. Are your Rene cans round or oval? What spacers are you using under the can straps where they bolt into the under seat tray? [/QUOTE] Thanks for that i had a quick look on ebay and found something similar to what you had used. Going to try wrapping the rear horizontal pipe on mine. At the moment i have some of the normal fairing heatshield on the underside of the battery tray and on the top of my hugger, but it looks a mess. It was only a temporary measure as i wanted to get on and ride the thing over the summer but will have a play around when it gets to winter. I was thinking of wrapping the rear header anyway as you say anything to keep a bit of heat off the rear suspension. I thin all the collectors are slightly different too as i got a modded one over last winter and the renegade system sits differently with this one than the original. Also my bike has a single sided swinger so it makes some clearance things better but can be a pain with other stuff. I'm not running renegade cans i have Akras on mine the ones from a Gen 2 fit the rene headers just fine. I also don't have a bracket underneath i just fixed the pipe clamp to one of the rear subframe holes that should be just for the undertray. Here's a pic, it doesn't have the pipe clamps on though. Need to take a few more really. I've managed to get a Marchesini wheel for the rear, just keeping an eye out for a front one that isn't silly money. |
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Hey, that's some bike you have there mate
Loving the swinger and the Akra's. Did you put the swinger in? You have all the options open to you for custom building a system using modified Ducati pipes etc with the room you've got because of the SSA. Spot on with the Gen2 cans -51.5mm iirc. Yes your right. The cans use the straps, bent over at an angle to bolt into the undertray holes -where the bobbins are, using the bobbins as spacers. Some were supplied with spacers instead. Obviously you need to add the spacer width to get the size for the longer bolts you need. Thread lock them as well (medium strength). The similar Gianelli system had a bracket that bolted to the undertray and hung the cans a bit lower, I'm sure you know all this. Granny sucks eggs Do a thread with your bike, when you're ready bud, looks very interesting *Edit* I see no can straps on yours? where/ how are they fitted? |
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Hi Phil mate! Thanks! You'll be the first to know when I plan a proper ride! There was a couple of others on here that wanted to come too. I'll have to check my messages. I've got to get my mojo back a bit, after not being able to ride for 2+ ****ing years!! You can imagine how I'm chomping at the bit, for a proper long shake down test! Soon my friend.. very sooon... |
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