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    Posted: 20 Apr 2019 at 08:13
Hi all could anyone shed some light on this problem please?I rode for just over an hour yesterday all seemed fine,stopped for 30minutes.Got back on the bike,it started fine,the first time I opened it up it stuttered about 7k so I changed up.The problem then got progressively lower down the Rev  range.Eventually it wouldn’t pull much more than 2.5k revs without dying on me.it lost power completely a number of times on the way home but always came back. I stopped completely 3 times and the bike started ok on the button,any information greatly appreciated thanks πŸ‘
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Possible blocked fuel filter, tea bag thing?

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Thanks for reply Dalmatian,will hope it’s that as it does not sound too expensive !How easy is it to check ?
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Originally posted by Dalmatian Dalmatian wrote:

Possible blocked fuel filter, tea bag thing?

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Always worth a clean out. Have to take the tank off and take fuel pump out. 

I'd suggest getting a multimeter and checking the reg rec outputs and all the brown connectors from it. I think all the gen2 tuonoonly have one right by the reg rec whereas the early gen2s had one there plus one in the centre of the V. 
Also check the white plug in the tail unit that goes to the starter solenoid. 
All of these can run fine when cold but as they heat and start to swell or even melt the bike starts to struggle 
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Cheers wigginsjp I thought it could be a number of things was rather hoping nothing serious though.Seems there could be a lot to check so hopefully get Griff on to it asap,thanks again πŸ‘
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Oh just a thought. Oil pressure switch can make symptoms like this also. Check wiring to it. Right hand side around same level as the reg/rec on the tuono gen2. It could be a faulty sensor if not loose wiring. If someone local has a bike you can pinch it off give it a try πŸ‘πŸ»
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Thanks again πŸ‘
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Evening all seems I have possibly found the culprit!Plug cap failure on the rear cylinder.Any suggestion?Can I just replace the cap or the whole lead any information on what and where to purchase appreciated thanks
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Although I didn't buy from this place and I don't use Denso Iridium plugs,just the leads
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Thanks Ian so the new lead fits straight on the coil and replaces the whole lead and plug cap?thanks for your help πŸ‘
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As I say this is what ended up on my bikes but you may be able to just screw a new cap on your leads?

I seem to recall that like the battery leads the standard HT leads feel like wet spaghetti though so not sure if it is possible.


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Thanks Ian I think probably best to go for lead and plug capπŸ‘
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Sorry to bother you Ian but do the leads just pull out of the coil?
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I think they do,don't remember doing anything unusual anyway,it was a couple of years since I fitted them to the T

At least if you do replace them it's one thing that should be trouble free whatever else happens.


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Please let us know if it cures it NB, cheers.
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Will do snowman πŸ‘
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Evening all,New plug leads on and a gallon of finest unleaded in but no starting!Definite sparks on rear cylinder but unable to get new lead off front cylinder to check spark.SERVICE is on the dash and got to diagnostic display,P-code 0231and A-coded 45.Says fuel pump.All advice/suggestions welcome,thanks 
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Thanks again Ian I will check this in the morning πŸ‘
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Hopefully even if your connector is ok this will have isolated the problem to the pump or wiring to it.

It is very easy to pull on connectors accidentally while lifting the tank and also pinching things on refitting it
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Hi Ian thanks for your help πŸ‘The white connection was apart and it fired up first time 😁I am really grateful for your help thanks again
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  Glad it helped but all I did was google your symptoms as I hadn't a clue about diagnostic codes Wink

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Well all seemed ok until I had done about 20 miles and then the original problem started,bike didn’t want to pull more than 3.5krevs my first thought was loose fuel pump connections but this was fine when I got home.Tried to scroll through and service menu for any clues the dash is now stuck on reset Service with the neutral light on and ignition off bike starts and revs fine sat in neutral.Anybody got any ideas ?
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Fuel filter seems fine will check reg Rev etc with multimeter πŸ‘
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Have checked reg Rev brown and white with multimeter and all give a reading on constant voltage mode,oil pressure sensor (just behind rear brake cylinder with one black wire?appears well connected.The white plug in the tail unit?does that come off the black box on top of the battery?cannot seem to get multimeter in there I pulled apart the connector but think this is not for starter solenoid because the bike starts with it disconnected 
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Failed stator?
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ive seen an item on the wiring to the fuel pump breaking were the wiring goes through the base. check continuity from fuel pump plug outside of fuel tank to plug onto the fuel pump ( the wiring had broken in the epoxy resin on the fuel pump base
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Thanks Colin will have a look at that.It seems odd that the bike will Rev When at a standstill but started not revenge after 18 miles.
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