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    Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 15:46
I have combined my knowledge of the various air trays I have made in the past 3 years and taken the good points from each of them. 
Through constant tests and use of various prototypes on my own bike I have come up with this design. 
I have tested them on both the road and on the track. 
This tray does away with the need for ANY rubber air boot either standard or the larger ones. It maximises the air flow to the engine, whilst saving 1.6kgs of weight. Combined with a set of my air tubes this combination gives you a minimum of 6.7 BHP increase and a 4.7ft/lbs of torque as well as irradiating the flat spot at 5,000rpm. (As you can see from the Dyno chart) I also make a version of this that fits the 57mm throttle bodies from the Gen 2 at no extra cost. All parts are made from high quality pre-preg carbon fibre.

The price is £149.99 for the tray and the modified Pipercross air filter is £49.99 and UK shipping is £10.  If you want the full kit of air tray, filter and Edwards air tubes the cost is £270.00 with FREE UK postage, saving you £25.00.
I do ship worldwide but please contact me for cost of shipping.


The full kit.

Saves 1.6 Kgs.

How it fits tot he TB's and frame.

With air filter.

The all important Dyno results. You can see it completely irradiates the flat spot at 5,000RPM and give you a good gain all the way though the rev range.

Edit to add. My Bike has an Arrow 60mm pipe on it with a TiForce standard length end can, 54mm TB's and a FR200 chip. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote damo46 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 17:53
Looks savage.
Was that with standard link pipe  and was there a power commander of different chip fitted to suit.


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tempting....
Have you dyno results for the gen2 57's by chance? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BIG UN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Nov 2018 at 18:44
stunning bit of kit.time to get saving for the full kit.
Top of my xmas list now with a modded collector.
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One on my dining table waiting to be fitted
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Originally posted by wigginsjp wigginsjp wrote:

tempting....
Have you dyno results for the gen2 57's by chance? 

Sorry I don't, but I think increase might be around the same kind of figure.
The main selling points are the removal of the flat spot and increase power/ torque and induction noise!!
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Jollygiant, what is the inside height and length of the Pipercross filter?
The reason why I ask is, I am running dual carbon velocity stacks.
 
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Originally posted by Bill R Bill R wrote:

Jollygiant, what is the inside height and length of the Pipercross filter?
The reason why I ask is, I am running dual carbon velocity stacks.
 
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I'll measure it tomorrow and get back to you.
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standard or modified headers on your bike Jolly ?


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Originally posted by damo46 damo46 wrote:

standard or modified headers on your bike Jolly ?


Standard shape but 60mm Arrow pipe with a Ti Force end can.
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Originally posted by Bill R Bill R wrote:

Jollygiant, what is the inside height and length of the Pipercross filter?
The reason why I ask is, I am running dual carbon velocity stacks.
 
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They do fit underneath the Pipercross filter but there isn't much of a gap

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Originally posted by Jollygiant Jollygiant wrote:

Originally posted by damo46 damo46 wrote:

standard or modified headers on your bike Jolly ?


Standard shape but 60mm Arrow pipe with a Ti Force end can.

Thanks for the reply , be interesting to see the graph with the addition of a modified collector/header pipes. I have an f255 gabro chip with modified collector and leo Vince titanium with 60mm link pipe on my tuono, standard airbox though .


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Originally posted by Gatterix Gatterix wrote:

Originally posted by Bill R Bill R wrote:

Jollygiant, what is the inside height and length of the Pipercross filter?
The reason why I ask is, I am running dual carbon velocity stacks.
 
Bill.

They do fit underneath the Pipercross filter but there isn't much of a gap

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Are you running 57's?
Would the gap be 1/2 inch?
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I have a Gen 2, so 57s but have carbon dual velocity stacks on a carbon air tray with a Pipercross Airfilter. 

Probably best to wait for the exact measurements of Jollygiant but it definitely felt tight, yes that sounds about right

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Hi Jolly are you able to make a tray with 59 or 60mm intake holes ?


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Originally posted by redratbike redratbike wrote:

Hi Jolly are you able to make a tray with 59 or 60mm intake holes ?

 
The hole for the 57mm stacks are actually 60mm in dia. What are thinking of doing then?


The internal height of the air filter.

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Thanks, the dual stacks are 10 cm / just under 4 inches (not allowing for the plate thickness or the recess in the throttle bodies which might equal the height lost when the filter is mounted and the lower seal compresses in contact with the plate)
 
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Fantastic gains there Ian combined with a chunky weight saving well done mate Thumbs Up

Do you have a dyno graph for the Gen2 plate?? 
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Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

Fantastic gains there Ian combined with a chunky weight saving well done mate Thumbs Up

Do you have a dyno graph for the Gen2 plate?? 

Thanks Adam, as you know tis quick or easy to develop these!

I don't have a dyno for Gen 2, are you offering your bike for a dyno run or 2Heart
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Originally posted by Jollygiant Jollygiant wrote:

Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

Fantastic gains there Ian combined with a chunky weight saving well done mate Thumbs Up

Do you have a dyno graph for the Gen2 plate?? 

Thanks Adam, as you know tis quick or easy to develop these!

I don't have a dyno for Gen 2, are you offering your bike for a dyno run or 2Heart

Hahaha yeah 10 minutes in the cave mate job doneLOL.

That's exactly what I was thinking mate. Im at work tonight when it goes quiet in the early hours I'll drop you a pm with my thoughts. 
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Originally posted by Jollygiant Jollygiant wrote:

Originally posted by redratbike redratbike wrote:

Hi Jolly are you able to make a tray with 59 or 60mm intake holes ?

 
The hole for the 57mm stacks are actually 60mm in dia. What are thinking of doing then?


The internal height of the air filter.





I have a set of 59 and a set of 60mm throttle bodies 


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