rsvr.net Forums Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > RSV / RSVR / FACTORY > FAQ
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Ohlin fork seals
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


Ohlin fork seals

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
RSVR P View Drop Down
L Plates
L Plates
Avatar

Joined: 17 May 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RSVR P Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Ohlin fork seals
    Posted: 03 Oct 2009 at 09:21
Has anyone any tips on replacement fork seals on a 05 RSVR factory?  I've heard of fitting Suzuki seals as an (cheaper?) alternative, if so which ones and is there any advantage at all or do I just stick to original parts?  Cheers for any info?   
Back to Top
Spoonz View Drop Down
Admins Group
Admins Group


Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North Devon
Status: Offline
Points: 10726
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Spoonz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2009 at 11:33
Suzuki K4 seals. Double lipped instead of single as per Ohlins. (and a lot cheaper)
Back to Top
RSVR P View Drop Down
L Plates
L Plates
Avatar

Joined: 17 May 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RSVR P Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2009 at 20:11
Many thanks
Back to Top
andy777 View Drop Down
Moto GP Alien
Moto GP Alien
Avatar

Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Location: berks
Status: Offline
Points: 522
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andy777 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Oct 2009 at 23:09
The seals are cheap anyway, aren't they? I was told its the stantion thats are not made to the same tolerances as the jap ones that causes the leaks.
Andy
Back to Top
monkeeman View Drop Down
Moto2 racer
Moto2 racer


Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Location: Bristol
Status: Offline
Points: 125
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote monkeeman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct 2009 at 09:15
I replaced my seals with k4 GSXR1000 ones a couple of years ago and they're still going strong 8000 miles later, mine also gets stood for months over winter without a problem, this is what really destroys the ohlins ones and the suzuki ones are fine. 

As for cost, ohlins ones are £50, OE suzuki £14.

Have a look at this old thread for more info

http://forum.rsvr.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=1979&KW=k4&PID=12051&title=forking-hell#12051





Edited by monkeeman - 06 Oct 2009 at 09:16
Back to Top
RSVR P View Drop Down
L Plates
L Plates
Avatar

Joined: 17 May 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 9
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RSVR P Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Oct 2009 at 21:49

Nice one, cheers.

Back to Top
andy777 View Drop Down
Moto GP Alien
Moto GP Alien
Avatar

Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Location: berks
Status: Offline
Points: 522
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andy777 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2009 at 08:35
£50 quid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I only pay £100 to get both forks serviced at an ohlins center. that includes all seals a few o rings clips etc and oil. Plus the labour for the guy to do it

Andy
Back to Top
dynodave View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 14 Oct 2009
Location: Staffordshire
Status: Offline
Points: 13
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dynodave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2009 at 13:02
Where was that? I need to replace mine.
Back to Top
andy777 View Drop Down
Moto GP Alien
Moto GP Alien
Avatar

Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Location: berks
Status: Offline
Points: 522
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote andy777 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Oct 2009 at 18:28
PDQ motorcycles in Taplow near slough just off the M4

Bit far for you though


Edited by andy777 - 22 Oct 2009 at 18:29
Back to Top
samurai sy View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 13 Mar 2010
Location: Bristol
Status: Offline
Points: 26
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote samurai sy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2010 at 01:27
I have a PDF on how to change the forks seals on ohlins forks, I also have a front and rear ohlins manual if anyone wants it? I bought a disc off ebay with some useful/useless information on it depending on your point of view
 

Edited by samurai sy - 22 Mar 2010 at 01:37
Back to Top
camngetit View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member
Avatar

Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: nottingham uk
Status: Offline
Points: 1440
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote camngetit Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Oct 2011 at 19:23
griff has the latest ohlins seals in which are double lipped and less than £50 for the seals.fitting is more
its twins for me !!!!
www.apriliaperformance.co.uk
www.apriliaforum.co.uk
www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk
Back to Top
rossi46 View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 03 Dec 2014
Location: KENT
Status: Offline
Points: 11
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rossi46 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jun 2015 at 19:41
Try a seal mate first as its cured my leaking seal and only cost £ 6 on eBay . Look at the vid on YouTube got nothing to lose by trying it .
GARY OBRIEN
Back to Top
Kamm Matt View Drop Down
World Superbike Star
World Superbike Star
Avatar

Joined: 03 Dec 2014
Location: ASIA
Status: Offline
Points: 208
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kamm Matt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2015 at 09:47
get a yam r1 SE 2006 edition fork seal.. as that r1 se use ohlins fork too
http://mibc.proboards.com/
Back to Top
CarsOrBikes View Drop Down
World Superbike Star
World Superbike Star


Joined: 23 Aug 2014
Location: Wirral
Status: Offline
Points: 230
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CarsOrBikes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2016 at 18:36
There are some stories that 'other make' seals contribute to premature coating wear, if true then the extra for genuine is the long term way forward, also if they aren't cleaned out properly perhaps expect to do them again fairly soon?
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2016 at 19:01
I have had suzuki ones in mine for years never any problems.
You may get problem on high mileage bikes maybe but probably done half its life with gsxr ones in no problems so far.

The R1 in post above a good bet aswell
Back to Top
Careca View Drop Down
World Superbike Star
World Superbike Star


Joined: 30 Dec 2015
Location: Sevenoaks
Status: Offline
Points: 269
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Careca Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2017 at 19:09
Without question try a sealmate first. I have found there is nothing wrong with the seal. Its crap that gets trapped under the seal and makes it leak . If you get it in time the seal mate removes the crap and hey presto it seals again.  Certainly worked for me twice. 


It really does work ...!

Regards,
Nat.
Back to Top
Jambon View Drop Down
Moto2 racer
Moto2 racer
Avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2018
Location: Bedfordshire
Status: Offline
Points: 154
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jambon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 21:43
Just thought I'd resurrect this thread... Does anyone have a link to the correct k4 GSXR1000 seals? I know AP stock the Ohlins ones for £47, which seems pricey, but could be convinced if it's the 'right' thing to do.
Back to Top
IanG View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member
Avatar

Joined: 04 Oct 2010
Location: N Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 10725
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 21:52
Do yourself a favour and swerve both the tight Gixxer ones and even the later twin lip Ohlins and splash out a bit on the super slippery green SKF units if you can find them.

Virtually does away with any stiction ? in the forks and seal like champs
www.apworkshops.co.uk
www.apriliaforum.co.uk
www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk

Looking forward to the next track day
Back to Top
badapple View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member
Avatar

Joined: 03 Nov 2014
Location: Norwich United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 5608
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote badapple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 22:07
Originally posted by Jambon Jambon wrote:

Just thought I'd resurrect this thread... Does anyone have a link to the correct k4 GSXR1000 seals? I know AP stock the Ohlins ones for £47, which seems pricey, but could be convinced if it's the 'right' thing to do.

If you want Ohlins seals I have a brand new set that I bought  but never fitted. Got them from AP I'll take 35 posted?
I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left
Back to Top
Spoonz View Drop Down
Admins Group
Admins Group


Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Location: North Devon
Status: Offline
Points: 10726
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Spoonz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 22:08
Originally posted by Jambon Jambon wrote:

Just thought I'd resurrect this thread... Does anyone have a link to the correct k4 GSXR1000 seals? I know AP stock the Ohlins ones for £47, which seems pricey, but could be convinced if it's the 'right' thing to do.

I would avoid Suzuki seals if you like your nitride coating to survive. You can buy the ohlins seals from Yamaha for less than ape prices. Just order seals for an R1 sp which has ohlins forks.
Back to Top
Jambon View Drop Down
Moto2 racer
Moto2 racer
Avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2018
Location: Bedfordshire
Status: Offline
Points: 154
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jambon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 22:26
I love this place, thanks for the quick replies. Will scour the web for SKF seals although a quick search looks like it could be hard. If I have no luck I'll hit you up badapple! Cheers guys
Back to Top
badapple View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member
Avatar

Joined: 03 Nov 2014
Location: Norwich United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 5608
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote badapple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2019 at 22:48
No worries 
I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left
Back to Top
CarsOrBikes View Drop Down
World Superbike Star
World Superbike Star


Joined: 23 Aug 2014
Location: Wirral
Status: Offline
Points: 230
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CarsOrBikes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 07:45
I think mine came from Brooks Barn iirc which weren't too expensive, and the oil may have been poor...
Back to Top
Jambon View Drop Down
Moto2 racer
Moto2 racer
Avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2018
Location: Bedfordshire
Status: Offline
Points: 154
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jambon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 08:13
Originally posted by CarsOrBikes CarsOrBikes wrote:

I think mine came from Brooks Barn iirc which weren't too expensive, and the oil may have been poor...

Thanks a lot. Any idea of the part number? Looking for ones for Ohlins forks from a gen 2 RSV Factory.
Back to Top
IanG View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member
Avatar

Joined: 04 Oct 2010
Location: N Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 10725
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 09:41
www.apworkshops.co.uk
www.apriliaforum.co.uk
www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk

Looking forward to the next track day
Back to Top
Jambon View Drop Down
Moto2 racer
Moto2 racer
Avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2018
Location: Bedfordshire
Status: Offline
Points: 154
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jambon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 10:57
Amazing thanks for this! Watched that video earlier this morning actually, very interesting.
Back to Top
2000r1 View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member


Joined: 11 Feb 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 157
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 2000r1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 13:11

5VX-23145-00 R1 SP

Fitted loads of these to RSV’s including my own, a damn sight cheaper than Aprilia too.
Back to Top
Tifa View Drop Down
Moto GP Alien
Moto GP Alien
Avatar
I am Sparticus, only uglier

Joined: 21 Apr 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 1972
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tifa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jun 2019 at 14:36
I used SKF in mine.
Whereas the genuine (and pattern) Showa seals would sometimes fail and leak (Bushings replaced, stanchions reground even) never had  problems with the SKF's
HIGHLY recommended.
Dunno how well they'd fare on the Ohlins though.
SKF's are very low friction, so should be ok with nitride coatings I'd have thought?

Back to Top
StorminBen View Drop Down
Moto3 racer
Moto3 racer
Avatar

Joined: 12 May 2019
Location: Solihull
Status: Offline
Points: 30
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote StorminBen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 14:27
Just for reference (in case anyone is interested) I went with the Yamaha seals and so far am impressed.
I had the Suzuki seals fitted previously and had been unhappy with what I thought was excessive high speed damping.

After conversations with a friendly suspension guy the penny dropped a bit.
It turns out that TiN coating is hard on fork seals because it is incredibly smooth, this means there are not as many microscopic grooves for oil to accumulate in. 
As a result the seals run drier than normal which can lead to stiction and increased wear

I decided to try swapping out the seals but baulked at £50+ for Ohlins so went with the Yamaha seals
5VX-23145-00  
These were originally listed for the 2006 R1-SP but further investigation shows they then became OEM for later R1s (2010 - 2013) 
Best bit - in stock at local Yamaha dealer and £14.99 for the pair!!

Fitted them last night and decided to do a side by side comparison similar to the video above.
And the results were . . . . . . . . very similar actually!
Yamaha seals seem to move much freer and smoother than the GSX-r ones

So back on the bike today and I'll see if the change is as noticeable as I hope
Watch this space


Back to Top
IanG View Drop Down
Premium Member
Premium Member
Avatar

Joined: 04 Oct 2010
Location: N Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 10725
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 2019 at 15:02
Not really strange when you consider that for many years Ohlins was wholly owned by Yamaha up until Kenth Ohlin bought it back under his control in 2007.
www.apworkshops.co.uk
www.apriliaforum.co.uk
www.apriliaownersclub.co.uk

Looking forward to the next track day
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.090 seconds.