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    Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 09:24
So the Mille is no more ...well it’s a pile of parts I could probably build it as a standard Mille with the bits I have but that’s for another day in the future m
So in the meanwhile I have moved onto falco’s got a nice one ready to go with highbars and a few other mods done by the previous owner (thanks Rob)


Frankenfalco aka project scrambler is go!!!!!
........it’s been a pile of parts and a dead falco (thanks Nooj) for a long time so thought i’d better make a start or it will never happen.


Inspiration was at first the victory pikes peak racer project 156...     I may revisit this idea with another falco frame or this may in time go that way


after seeing the triumph below my plans morphed a little

into this
 


so while up the garage I managed to pull a few parts off and fitted the knobbles and bars to start getting some idea at how this will really look
 
 
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next week i'll  start seriously thinking about which engine I'm going to use as the one in it is dead , guy checked the valves and thought he dropped something in the engine, left the valve cover off and its had rain etc in it all the cams are rusty so this scrap engine will yield a front cam sensor and stator etc for .........................................................
 
 
a gen 2 engine... picked one up before Christmas for £200! its either that or a mille engine that would be easier to fit as a straight bolt in engine...the gen 2 needs the front head modded for a gen1 cam sensor and the stator / flywheel swapping out for a gen1 item off the scrap engine .
 
fingers crossed this weekend will see the  forks swapped out with some gold showas Griff rebuilt a while back and only have about 1k on them and the engine pulled out.... then start slicing up a falco seat unit to see if I can get anything like my mock-up pic, it will be slimmer than the falco unit
 
 
 failing that I may go with a panigale seat unit to be a bit different think it would suit it and close to my mock-up pic?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Really looking forward to seeing this and following it's progress Mark!

Go for it buddy. Than Pani seat does look pretty much the same as the mock up you did. Is that a small number board on the front I spy?
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Ohhh looking forward to seeing how this develops a build from the parts messiah himself. I like where you are going with this Mark as long as you dont start growing a beard and drinking craft beverages
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Originally posted by badapple badapple wrote:

Ohhh looking forward to seeing how this develops a build from the parts messiah himself. I like where you are going with this Mark as long as you dont start growing a beard and drinking craft beverages

I looking forward to it as well ...been a long time coming had the falco a couple of years now
mmmnnnn beard well it would all be grey no doubt so that’s a no

Got some craft beers for Xmas and poured some down the sink as they are cooking horrible so that’s a no

As for the bike it’s the seat unit that is bugging me once I get the shape I want I will get a subframe welded up to suit


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Originally posted by Diablo Diablo wrote:

Really looking forward to seeing this and following it's progress Mark!

Go for it buddy. Than Pani seat does look pretty much the same as the mock up you did. Is that a small number board on the front I spy?
cheers Rick ...the pani seat may end up on the finished bike as I need to learn plastic welding to mod the falco seat

...yes number board I bought it of off a guy that makes the bits for cb500 race bikes just to try it it’s too small unfortunately but i’ll Sort something out ..


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You could sweet talk jolly into making you one of his rs seat units for you.
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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

You could sweet talk jolly into making you one of his rs seat units for you.
It's not a RS seat unit, it's a HRC based part and I don't own the mould.

As with 99.9% of the parts on my bike it's a one off, it's nice to know that you have made the only one in the whole world and not just slung a load of cash at something.


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I thought it was a Honda rs250 unit, looks good though👍
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Originally posted by Jollygiant Jollygiant wrote:

Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

You could sweet talk jolly into making you one of his rs seat units for you.

It's not a RS seat unit, it's a HRC based part and I don't own the mould.

As with 99.9% of the parts on my bike it's a one off, it's nice to know that you have made the only one in the whole world and not just slung a load of cash at something.


i’ve Not actually seen it?


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Are going to use a 2nd hand seat Mark or a fiberglass replica?
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The genuine seat looks like it's 4 or 5 pieces with the seat, plus the subframe. There's replica ones that are basically 1 piece, but I'm sure you don't want a horrible bit of foam to sit on...
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This tread lacks angle grinder sparks.
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Originally posted by Diablo Diablo wrote:

The genuine seat looks like it's 4 or 5 pieces with the seat, plus the subframe. There's replica ones that are basically 1 piece, but I'm sure you don't want a horrible bit of foam to sit on...
there are 2 types of replica seat , race type that take foam and a one piece that replaces the 4/5 bits
 
 


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This tread lacks angle grinder sparks.
We need angle grinder sparks please.
sorry to disappoint i'll need a cordless grinder or a mile long extension lead LOLLOLLOLLOL


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Ah good, I see now. Yes that would work much better.

I was looking at stuff like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUCATI-PANIGALE-889-1199-SBK-RACE-RACING-TRACK-DAY-TAIL-STOCK-SEAT-FAIRING/162831689734?hash=item25e9866806:g:AYgAAOSwi0RXzrPU

Which would give the old harris a hard time.

What about the actual seat seat?

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Originally posted by Diablo Diablo wrote:

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What about the actual seat seat?

genuine ducati if I go panigale seat Thumbs Up 
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If it were me, I'd do the same. What about the subframe? Modified Ducati or build one from scratch?

The more I look at that seat, the more I like it.

Remember when we were all putting 916 seats on our Gixer's? Big smile
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Originally posted by Diablo Diablo wrote:

If it were me, I'd do the same. What about the subframe? Modified Ducati or build one from scratch?

The more I look at that seat, the more I like it.

Remember when we were all putting 916 seats on our Gixer's? Big smile
had a 916 seat on my 1052 then a stumpy German style seat ..the last one which was 1216cc actually had an Aprilia seat unit


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I really miss those days!

Sweary Bob Spondon! Remember Steve Burns and his Spondon Monster turbo's!

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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

I thought it was a Honda rs250 unit, looks good though👍

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Originally posted by Jollygiant Jollygiant wrote:

Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

I thought it was a Honda rs250 unit, looks good though👍


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Ah, the good old days, I remember seeing Burns and his bikes at Santa Pod, when Superbike magazine used to run ¼ mile races...it was all the rage for a while. Remember doing an 11.06 on a Kwak GPz1100, so close to getting into the 10s.
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