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Yep still interested Wink
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I still have them,I’m looking for them in the unit as I boxed everything up and now they’re lost in a mountain of boxes, someone already has first dibs though when I find them.
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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

I have a set of stepicentis double stacks for 57’s if you’re interested?
did these sell do you have a price ? 

Someone after a set else where 


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Cheers dog good info definitely worth thinking about Thumbs Up
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You won't regret it, change exhaust or the velocity stacks and it will map itself. I have had mine since 2015.
You can map it for every gear if you want, not that I bothered. 
I have one lower tooth on the front sprocket and it's a breeze in town. Mine runs a live map, so it's mapping all the time. 
I need to get Aprilia running again after May, the other bike is taking up all my time atm.
The AT300 installation is quite straightforward, just need to get a feed for the live that can take the amps. The At200 is OK to run from the rear light wire but that has only one sensor but with the At300 it blew a fuse 
If I get a chance I will take a picture of where I took the feed from that runs off the ignition and post it on here. 👍
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Yes it is a shame even though I had fitting issues it is quality stuff but yes they do have much larger ports on headers so looks good to go if I go that route cheers.
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Smalmoto has finished as a business, shame really.
I remember a few months ago saying goodbye to Konstantin and wishing him good luck on AF1.
If like Adam says they are already in there 18mm for the wideband sensors you will be fine 👍
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Originally posted by Paddedcell100 Paddedcell100 wrote:

Looking at a system on the Smaltmoto website it looks like their systems (certainly the most recent ones at least)came with the ports already fitted.

lol yes you are write they do have the ports didn't realise till I had a look this morning Embarrassed can't get on there website for some reason any more tho.
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Looking at a system on the Smaltmoto website it looks like their systems (certainly the most recent ones at least)came with the ports already fitted.

Better to have something you don't need than need something you don't have....
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Originally posted by dog78 dog78 wrote:

Originally posted by Hangry Hangry wrote:

Loving all this being done nice workThumbs Up can anyone still get hold
Of stafanos double stacks?also like the auto tune sounds good
Would one have to mod the headers on a smalt system for the two
Sensors.
The 18mm bungs need to be 5" to 6" from the start of the header, you need a Pcv to run it off too.  You need one in each of the headers. Google fitting instructions for AT300 Dynojet and it explains in there where the bungs have to be welded 👍
nice one dog thanks for info Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

1103 with ported head, Kent cams, 57mm tb’s with mss airbox.
wow lol nice I know they work well on standard bore from dyno test that af1 did on same bike same day ect.so if price is rite ,and can't beat a nice bit of carbonWink
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Originally posted by Hangry Hangry wrote:

Loving all this being done nice workThumbs Up can anyone still get hold
Of stafanos double stacks?also like the auto tune sounds good
Would one have to mod the headers on a smalt system for the two
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The 18mm bungs need to be 5" to 6" from the start of the header, you need a Pcv to run it off too.  You need one in each of the headers. Google fitting instructions for AT300 Dynojet and it explains in there where the bungs have to be welded 👍
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1103 with ported head, Kent cams, 57mm tb’s with mss airbox.
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What set up was that hemi?its just heard all good reports
About them but if they don't work Cry I know all bikes are different still I'd like
To give em a go lol
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Yes, didn’t work with my setup.
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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

I have a set of stepicentis double stacks for 57’s if you’re interested?
did you try them ?? 


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Ok, I’m in the unit later and I’ll take a picture.
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Originally posted by 426hemi 426hemi wrote:

I have a set of stepicentis double stacks for 57’s if you’re interested?
hey hemi I would be very interested indeed if you could PM me with a price and a pic that would be ideal.Thumbs Up
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Nice Ad good find that, take it you're keeping the gen1 then? Ment to ask you the other day what you were doing with it. 
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I have a set of stepicentis double stacks for 57’s if you’re interested?
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Loving all this being done nice workThumbs Up can anyone still get hold
Of stafanos double stacks?also like the auto tune sounds good
Would one have to mod the headers on a smalt system for the two
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Originally posted by dog78 dog78 wrote:

Hi Adam, what's the new airbox you was working on the other day was that for a gen 1, is that going to have them oval filters on it.
Surely we ain't on about putting that on a gen 2?

Hello Rich. 

That's a gen 1 Edward's airbox from Georg Hecker (who brought all of the MSS moulds), so that will be going on the Mille (also got a brand new set of genuine Edwards 57's waiting to go on it😉👌).  

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The easiest way to get a non return valve that works in a hot environment is to use an ERG valve. These are a reed valve which keeps operating at high revs.

To get a second hand one got to ebay and search for ERG valve within motorcycle parts. You will get a number of options with different angles between inlet and outlet, I usually go for 180 degree ones. They will cope with an 850 cc 360 degree twin so a 1000cc 60 degree V twin will task it even less.

This is a 90 degree one



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Hi Adam, what's the new airbox you was working on the other day was that for a gen 1, is that going to have them oval filters on it.
Surely we ain't on about putting that on a gen 2?
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Hello buddy. 
 I used an ITG JC20 filter, you can get them in varying heights, it's going back a bit but I think the 65mm one was the one I used here...
Just to let you know though, I struggled to get it to seal properly at the bottom of the filter (my design and implementation, nothing to do with the filter), so scrapped this idea and just stuck with my ironbite in the end...if I wanted to go for a box filter type solution again then I would go for one of Jollys airtrays (he wasnt making the gen 2 version at the time I did this). 

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My crankcase feed goes through the valve and then into a filter outside the airbox,  can't see the idea of putting hot air into the airbox, it has worked well for a few years now, a catch tank I did think off, but finding a place for it wasn't easy. 
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I got a one way valve, which causes negative pressure in the crankcase. I did know the proper name of it. Been a while since I worked on the Aprilia. But I promised her that soon I get back from Almeria with the Superstock R1 I will get her on the road. Plus put a PFM race rear caliper on it.
I really want it back on the road this year, I miss riding it, but I just ain't got time till May then a service and two new brake lines on the front. The Aprilia is a much better road bike, the R1 is just too     ballistic for the road£👍
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Whether Gen1 or Gen2 fit a catch can and dont have the problem of the engine sucking hot oily vapour back in and diluting the fuel/air mix.

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