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legend88
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And faster is cheaper of course but plastic plumbing is crap. The seals have a 'Life' and they bury the things behind walls and under floors, utter madness! But of course the new build warranty on plumbing is only two years so the builders don't care. |
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No I agree
everyone's on price even me the faster you are the better it is for you. Am on 450 thousand well I will be for next two years until we leave the EU then probably about 250 haha So you will go even faster then not care as much as you did but honestly if it comes to that I will be the same family comes first stuff it do what you can get away with if prices are that low Sorry to say but it's the truth |
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IanG
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Is the plastic plumbing that bad then? I was talking about it when in Screwfix last and they said they stock it all and the trade uses it as well.
I know it only used to be for the cold supply but I gather it's different plastic now that can be used for hot as well? I was quite taken with the idea but if it has a bad rep then I wouldn't bother |
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Olie
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Nope not bad stuff at all Ian it's what all plumbers use nowadays and being a successful tradesmen is all about reputation I don't think they'd be installing it if it was set to fail in the near future. I'm not saying its 100% guaranteed but neither is solder joints. But if it was that crap I'm sure it would of been abolished long since, I can recall it been around 10 years at least now, and it's more popular than ever. |
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Rybes
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As an Englishman living in Denmark I wonder what it mens for me as i was allowed in cos we were in the EU when I come over.
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ive just got my first vtwin and i think i got the right one
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legend88
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You have two years to get married
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Hahaha it's only coz you know am right |
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legend88
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I am sorry but I dont' agree. I manage over fifty properties from new build to over 100 years old and the only leaks I get (Including from new and recent build) are those plumbed in plastic. If the pipe is hidden behind a wall or under a floor, a great deal of damage can be done before you even realise there is a leak. It's bad enough when a waste pipe leaks but if a mains pressure pipe or joint goes while you are asleep or on holiday imagine the devastation when you wake/return! Some insurance companies will not even cover for water damage caused by leaks from plastic pipework. Some of the problems I have seen (Not in any order of commonality or seriousness): - Reduced flow and hammer from reduced bore size (Due to the wall thickness of the plastic) - 'O' ring seals fail over time (Not always a long time) - Incorrect fitment (And Mark has previously identified the approach of many tradesmen when faced with peacework) - Push fittings come loose - Rodents eat through the plastic |
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On my sites they are not allowed to put the joints behind plaster mate.
So unless you hit it with a nail it won't leak. Nhbc check called Pre plaster check |
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legend88
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However Denmark will probably have voted to leave by then! |
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Rybes is from Denmark not me mate
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My family from Wales originally does that count hahaha
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legend88
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Firstly, I've seen many so called NHBC checks either not done or not done properly and I have seen lots of plastic joints both behind walls and under floors. Even if that is true I think it tells you all you need to know about their view of the longevity of plastic plumbing. Whatever the theory, my experience with the after effects rather than the theoretical and installation makes me very very wary of it. I certainly would not have it in my home for anything other than waste pipes. We are seriously off-topic here so I think we should end this issue now. |
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legend88
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Yep, my message was to Rybes |
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No issue mate were talking about pipes hahaha.
But your doing that thing my wife does get last word in then says no no let's top it now haha I will let you have that one mate your probably right haha |
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legend88
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I know how that feels, so go ahead, I won't respond |
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Your Trying To Make Me I Was So Close No No No I Won't To Do
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Rybes
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Hmmm marries I sorta am but not on paper. Ya right too cos this place seema to follow England they love the place ao it may well be a possibility as my missus as already said stuff along those lines
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ive just got my first vtwin and i think i got the right one
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legend88
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I think the EU will need to do something significant to stop Denmark and The Netherlands asking to leave pretty soon.
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Yeah but I think we should all be our own country's again but have free trading that's the perfect solution to this I know it's easy to say it but you get what I mean
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IanG
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Yup,should have kept it as the 'Common Market' then everyone would have been happy
Well apart from the Greeks and all the other latecomers we ended up maintaining More power to the other EU members trying to question the status quo,if nothing else it might reign in the un elected ruling elite for a while Arrogant gits,they wouldn't have that privilege if others hadn't come to their rescue years ago |
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Does Nicola Sturgeon think that Scotland is a member of the EU? I think the UK is a member and as her friends in Brussels have already mentioned, if Scotland wanted to join they would be at the back of the queue behind Turkey. Would they even qualify?.
The choice now for Scotland will be between a UK invigorated and looking forward to the future or the EU who I believe will now see a call for many more in out referendums and ultimately the collapse of the EU project. If the people of Scotland wish to leave the UK they are welcome to but don't saddle yourself with the problems of the EU as leave or not we all love Scotland and want it to prosper. |
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cwp
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Sturgeon seems like bad news same as Leanne wood with plaid cymru here in Wales.
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born ugly what's your excuse!!
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IanG
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Just two more potential empire builders with personal agendas
As far as the Scot's go,by all means give them a referendum so they can go and join the EU and use the Euro Plenty of work for the English building workers in refurbing Hadrian's wall As for the Welsh,even they know they wouldn't survive on tourism alone so not much stomach here for independence outside the reservations in the hills. |
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cwp
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Yea Ian we know that its just she wants to be a sturgeon clone so bad it's scarey. She got a hidden agenda I'm certain. That's why she didn't want out of eu. It's fine for south Wales as they benefit mainly from eu money and assembly bias. North had some investment and mid where I live doesn't exist lol
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born ugly what's your excuse!!
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IanG
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Just like in England the north / south divide is noticeable here,hopefully now we can stop funding others and start putting our own house in order.
Don't hold your breath though to many ambitious people still wanting their share of fame and wealth |
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cwp
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Learned not to hold my breath years ago Ian lol
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born ugly what's your excuse!!
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Red Mille
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I'm regretting voting out now as the remain promised long hot Mediterranean summers if we stayed in!
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Did they? Oh sh*t had I known that mate I'd have voted in pmsl
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born ugly what's your excuse!!
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