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A quick update for @spiceweasel. 

The number 11 is down and safe I hope..

The surface layers are down and tomorrow I will bag it over the weekend as I do have to finish off the Royal Enfield tank cover for Monday. Its only a cover but its a big project for them at the moment.. 

So will be getting on with it on Monday and it should be a tank shell with a base by Thursday. The sealer resin arrived today so Timson's tank will be sealed and assembled by midweek also. 






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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote spiceweasel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 06:38
Getting excited now,it just so happens my birthday is on the 11th  so it was meant to be 😎
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Sorry for the slow update. I had to get the final Royal Enfield tank cover over to them on Monday..


So Tuesday I had to rush off and get some more material from the supplier..

The second tank shell is now almost assembled and will be in the oven tonight as long as my eye dont close up completely... Bloody hay fever...


The anti histamines have kicked in to stop the sneezing mostly but the eyes... Damn they are sore.. 
lol.. SO got some matchsticks sorted to keep them open while I finish off the shell...

 
The sections had their first layers down and have been sitting in a vacuum bag under vacuum for a couple of days while I sorted out what I had to do and collect more material. 

Now I am doing the backing layers and adding strength to the sections and bolting the mould together. All I have to get done now is the top of the tank. Assemble then bag it to go into the oven tonight. At about 11am tomorrow the shell will be out of the oven. 

I have tried something different with this tank as yesterday I laid up and cured the fuel pump section of the mould with the threaded inserts in place. I trimmed it up and have put the cured part into the rest of the mould and over laid fresh carbon to bond it into place. I have had to bond the inserts after making the shell before due to the bag not getting round the inserts fully and puncturing the bag. This allows me to be less critical of the bag going over the fuel pump area and just getting it onto the areas which need to be bonded. But too much information I guess. But it is another attempt to get the tank sealed an leak free without having to rely on wet resins to do the work after the sections are made. 







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excellent. Too good to put fuel in. Should be balanced over the TV set to look at. Lol
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote badapple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 00:57
looks stunning! Sympathy for the hayfever i suffer terribly too fair play for cracking on 
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Mould was in the oven last night... About an hour before I can demould it now as it went in at about 7pm. 



Bagged up ready. 
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So much work goes into these fuel tanks!!

Really coming together now. Clap

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Quite an education watching an artist at work Clap
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote legend88 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jun 2018 at 16:01
Originally posted by Timson Timson wrote:

So much work goes into these fuel tanks! Clap


And I guess that's why they are the price they are. How much do you get paid at work for the time morepower is spending on this?
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Very subtle.... Possibly too subtle... So it may be better if the numbers are filled with a little colour..

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Looking good mate 👍👍
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Happy Birthday by the way!! 
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Timson's tank is now almost a tank that can be used.. The base is bonded into place and the fuel pump hole is rough cut for now. It will be finished off a little more tomorrow as the adhesive needs a good 24 hours to cure fully. The inserts are bonded into place and going nowhere fast. The sad thing is it actually looks worse now than before it is bonded sticky fingers and adhesive being squeezed out just leave a residue. I do spray the shell with a wax polish to help remove the excess from where it is not wanted but it does not look so good until its about to go for lacquer.  When it will be cleaned off and buffed before the painter gets it....








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Oh I almost forgot to show the inside of the tank. Not the clearest photo but the tank is sealed with a thick phenol Novolac resin which is supplied exclusively to me without any cheaper resins blended to make it cheaper. Its the real deal base resin that is no good for making anything but is amazing for sealing fuel tanks..

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and most importantly totally ethanol resistant !
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Excellent!! - Tho, is it just that picture or is that underside panel near the fuel pump base not bonded yet. Looks like there’s a gap.

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Originally posted by Timson Timson wrote:

Excellent!! - Tho, is it just that picture or is that underside panel near the fuel pump base not bonded yet. Looks like there’s a gap.

Tim

No gap just the base overlaying the shell.. Its the strongest bond with a good surface area. The flat area will have a thin layer of resin put over it to also seal the outside face from Ethanol but that will be after lacquer has been applied so it can be sanded and keyed for the resin and not have lacquer over spray  which may start to peel away over time. 
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Almost sounds like you know what you’re doing! WinkWink
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Originally posted by Timson Timson wrote:

Almost sounds like you know what you’re doing! WinkWink

Yep Almost....
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OK just a quick update and the last one for a week or two possibly. The tanks or going to the painter today..... Off for lacquer then when they get back its the fuel pump area which needs to be finished off... 



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Oh dear I've had a moment ...😆
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Haha,

I know what you mean!! Control yourself! 😉

Just wait till they’re all glossy!!!

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