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    Posted: 20 Mar 2015 at 11:09
It's a while away yet but it's looking like I will be on track to have the cash to do a big bore next winter. However, the winter after that, I will be debt free (student loan long gone, current loan I have that bought my RSV gone too), and I'll be able to buy an RSV4. 

So... Do I throw 2 grand at an old bike in 10 months time and make it an absolute weapon? Or hold off another year, get a V4 but be in debt for another 3 years? What would you do??
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V4

sacrilege I know

I would too but I'm 6' 3"......

might take a look at an RC8
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Had the option and I stayed with a twin and have made myself a special bike. I'm 6ft 1 and go touring a lot on mine so rsv4 would not replace my twin. i have as much useable power off of mine now as I want.
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I'm 5'10" and whatever bike I have will only be getting nailed around a race track...
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personally -  not sure I see the worth of a bike that powerful round knockhill. That wouldn't stop me buying one though :)
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If you take a test ride on the V4 it'll make up your mind for you...It's worth it.
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Maybe I'm old and boring but if the V4 means another 3 years of debt then stick with the twin. I hate debt. Been there done that on cars when I was in my 20s. Near 20k at one point and it's just stress as you know if you crash it, the insurance payout won't cover the loan amount. Then you're stuck paying off a loan for a bike you don't have.
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Yeah.. I'm 30 now and I have never been out of debt since I was 18 (ALL cars and bikes). Having said that, I don't see a problem with debt as long as the interest rates are not too silly and the payments are manageable. Without borrowing I would never have had such nice toys, I'm sh*t at saving. If I do stick with the twin, I'll still have an epic bike but a f**k load more disposable income to throw at euro track days and things like that
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MountainMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Mar 2015 at 14:03
Personally I'd stick with the Mille. I am biased as I love mine but even if you do buy the RSV4 you'll be having the same same conversation over modifications. Not a big bore granted but it's not hard to throw 2 grand at any bike. Ha ha
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If you can afford a late v4 they are much stronger motor wise but if owning one means you can never afford for it to break or have a crash, (they don't crash well) upgrade the Rsv instead. A turd you can ride is nearly always preferable to a gem you can't at the end of the day.
 
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It's a good point, I certainly could not afford to write off a V4
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If it's just a track toy then your gen2 would be the way I'd stay.
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Food for thought and I've a while to make the decision... Would love to big bore the twin, would finish her off nicely
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I would stick with the twin, big bore it and make it really special. Or buy another Rsv as a dedicated track bike. If you cannot afford to crash the Rsv4, it is not really an option for the track.

Also buy a set of track bodywork, spare levers etc and fit a race can you don't mind getting rashed. That way you have all the bits for the road as well as track and it's not the end of the world if you have an off.

You have plenty of time to get the V4, so I would enjoy being debt free and having enough spare cash to track it as much as you want. If you can save enough to buy half the V4, it will make the payments cheaper, or the loan a shorter duration, should you opt for finance in the future.


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I reckon you've already made your mind up, but if not... Keep the RSV, chuck a load of cash at it, go do some Euro track days (lucky twat). They might not be the latest thing in the fashion stakes but feck they're good.
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I came to the keep the Tuono and go the big bore route rather than get another bike, as much as I'd like a new V4 Tuono or RSV4 I don't think it would give me any more smiles per miles than I'm already getting, plus I can't exploit what I've got to the max so a V4 would be wasted


would still like one though

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And going past RSV4's on track is ...........

Well , it will put a smile on your face
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keep yours buddy.
all the signs point to that being the right choice.
and to be debt free is an amazing feeling.
plus your beloved bike you have now will just get even better!

ive only ever had 1 brand new bike,that 1st fuel inj r1 and hated the whole experience,
your looking for them 1st few stone chips everytime or the 1st scratch,
darent use it half as hard or leve it anywere,and you lose sh*t loads on them so fast.

ever since i havent spent beyond £2k on a bike,ive never ever lost on one,
except a few quid on race cans and a bit of general servicing.

infact ive made on nearly everyone.plus its MY bike and all paid for.
if you do get new,get the gap insurance!saved my life with that new r1 when it got nicked.
3 month after buying from yamaha for £9500,yamaha uk slashed £2k off a new one,
leaving me worse off right away then id barely made a dent in the interest never mind started paying the actual bike off,but the gap made the rest up to full price.
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Originally posted by v60marko v60marko wrote:

Without borrowing I would never have had such nice toys, I'm sh*t at saving.  

Here's the deal.....

Go for the big bore.
From then onwards, the money that you would have been spending on the monthly payments for the v4 goes into the piggy bank.
In 2 years time you will have a sizeable war chest to buy yourself whatever you like. interest free.

YOU

WILL

SAVE


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Really the big bore is the only option....

It's mental!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote m9rko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2015 at 13:59
I think the fact I can't afford to bin a v4 on finance will be the decider. Hopefully things will pan out and I might be looking at a big bore with later gen 2 heads this winter..
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Originally posted by v60marko v60marko wrote:

Yeah.. I'm 30 now  

You old Bastid LOLLOLLOL

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