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    Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 06:04
morning all i got a battery from ap yesterday and thought i give it a charge before i bung it in left it in for a couple hours but not quite done another hour this morning and the same so i think it time for a new charger the one i have is a oxford oximiser 900 which has done ok for the last 5 years what are you using with good life and charging  my battery is lead acid 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote legend88 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 07:48
I know some people don't like them but I've used Optimate for 25 years on bikes and cars and have found them effective and completely reliable. The one I am using currently is over 15 years old and going strong. All the others are just copycats in my view - of course that doesn't necessarily make them bad products.
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Optimate for me as well but ctek always seem to get glowing reports as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WallyB Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 09:32
I have several Ctek and they have all been reliable and are fine with all batteries except lithium  (unless you buy that particular charger)
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cheers fellers I will check em both later today 
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I suspect you haven't left it on long enough, some new batteries can still take a number of hours if not overnight on a bike specific charger. I agree Optimate, mine is old, Optimate 3 I think, but now it sits connected to just one bike, at least for now, and after all sorts of reading I bought four CTEK MXS3.8's which are 7 step chargers with mode switch for car and bike and will charge anything from wet fill, sealed, AGM just not Li-ion, but as with all of these I've found, certainly the Optimates, they can tell you the battery is charged and it is, but it can be weak and still leave you stuck on the second or third need to start it, as has happened to me. The CTEK seems better with it's separate level 6 monitoring but the jury is out. A tell tale is if you hook up a battery that is indeed weak but charges, I have two off my Classic Mini, you may see the charger switch to level three quite soon, bulk charge, and again level 4, absorption, and this I suspect is a sign they cannot correctly identify if the CCA you rely on is actually restored. I charged these same batteries back in May for the Mini and one wouldn't put the ignition on and the other did but wouldn't turn it over, both charged off my Optimate which works fine on known good batteries. It was part of my reasoning in getting a slightly smarter charger that did both vehicle types, and where I could see the monitoring. At the moment, the MXS3.8 is the only charger you may ever need. Sorry long post, again ;O)
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optimate for me too!Thumbs Up 
I have 3 mk 4s used them on bikes and cars, and I have just purchased a lithium one for my track bike
on my licence it says "tear down the dotted line" so I DO!
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Optimate 4 here also , plugged in all the time during winter still original battery 2009
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote badapple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 17:36
Im obviously a tight arse because I use one i bought from Aldi about 6 years ago and cant fault it works for me.
I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 18:37
Old Oxford Oximiser for bike lead acid top up once a year when removed for winter storage. 

I've never charged the battery during the riding season which for me was generally March to Oct.

I've now uprated to a JMT Lithium battery and a Nogo Genius 3500 combo and so far haven't needed to connect the charger yet to try it out.

Battery and charger bought in April last year so the battery is doing quite well without any charging since then,and it hasn't been used much so most of that is down time just sitting unattended in the garage.


www.apriliaperformance.co.uk
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Looking forward to the next track day
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BIG UN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 18:41
lol,nice one buddy.
oxford oximiser 900 here too.
not had a problem with it before on many a bike,
but next year ill upgrade the battery to higher cca and upgrade to the 150a starter solenoid.
uprated both on the tuono i had and it fired up instantly,literaly 1 second after pressing the starter button

fantastic essential mods for the gen 1 for peace of mind along with a good quality trickle charger.
mine starts up first go but takes a few turn overs,it could be better.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote constant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 18:54
carsorbikes i think you were right i gave it about five hours all in stuck it in this afternoon and it boomed into life and i think i will go ctek as well 
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Originally posted by dog78 dog78 wrote:

I use a Noco Genius 3.5  ,  it does every type of battery and reasonably priced.  It's handy if you get a lithium later .
It also remembers what it was last set to incase there is a power failure especially as mine is a Lithium and if it switched to something else it would ruin the battery. 
You can also buy a status lead save you taking the seat off 
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I always used the Optimate with wet lead acid battery, until I bought a Shido lithium and the Noco Genius 3.5/status lead, on my good friend Dog78's recommendation. As he says, the charger has different modes for different batteries types. If you swap to lithium later, you won't need to factor in the price of a charger. If you don't, you still have a top notch charger for your standard or uprated battery.

Thanks Rich, It's quality kit. Clap
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote badapple Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 20:29
That looks like a very decent bit of kit. The main reason I haven't bought a new fangled lithium battery was the fact it needed a different charger, referring to the earlier tight arse post, and i couldn't warrant the cost. If my trusty Aldi jobbie fsils I think I'd buy one of those. I also don't bother to plug the bike in anymore like IanG I just leave it alone and it's started without any issues all year.
I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left
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Whilst we are taking about chargers and batteries,  a strange thing happened to Shido battery . It was showing 100% charge on the Noco status lead when I took it out to put in on a GSXR 600 , a bike I was working on. I started the 600 and then returned it to the RSV factory and it was showing 100% a week later I went back and the lead was blank saying the battery was totally flat , so I plugged the charger in within 10 minutes it was showing 75% and it started the bike . Now I know that you shouldn't let them go totally flat,  but I also heard that they have a safety system built in to them where it doesn't let them go totally flat,  well maybe it has got one,  also the three lights when you press the button on the battery doesn't necessarily mean the battery is fully charged,  it says that in the Shido information.  It's been holding its charge so far and I will keep it in doors now so it's easier to keep an eye on it.
I am hoping it's going to be ok.  But I to charge that quick and start the bike is truly amazing,  but it does say in the instructions that it can go from 25% to 90% in 7 mins , maybe it says that because it cuts off at 25%? 
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Hi Rich with the gen 2 after battery connection you need to key on for 20 sec's without starting then key off. Will drain battery over couple of days if it isn't done.
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Cheers Paul,  I might have forgotten , I think I did and may explain what happened,  thanks. 
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