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    Posted: 01 Jul 2018 at 13:33
will it fit ?? any good ?? anyone done it ?? and what profile ? just been looking at race scrubs and nobody does a 190 its all 200 !
living life in the fairly fast lane rsv mille 2000 & rsv factory 2004, no more until i get a bigger garage ............
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600s run 190s mate? The new models
They do loads even slicks in 190s
There a some on tdr metzeler 60 quid k1 front k2 rear 
I wouldn't put a 200 on a aprilia rsv anyway no need what so ever pal
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Try it ! Then we will all know ... if only for looks , go on .
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Someone on here is running a 200 rear just can't remember who, most tyres run + or - a few mm, I run 180/60 on gen 1 with 520 chain and it just touches.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote geobarb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2018 at 14:57
If i remember correctly richard(dog78) was running 200 rear without any problems
Contact him for details
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Am guessing looking as he said race scrubs it's not for looks.

Don't do itl handle like a wheel barrow with a flat tyre get and that's were rsvs are good on track for handling.
It won't look any better than a 190 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote colinmeadows Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2018 at 15:19
sorryi didnt really make myself clear in the original post as i hate typing , i was looking for tyres yesterday which i got ( pilot 3s ) and i saw the price of the top end tyres which got me thinking of what was available in the used road legal track tyres ( supercorsas , racetec and the like ) and i noticed that they only seemed to be 180 or 200, which made me ask has anyone got the 200 on a gen 2 for either fast road or occasional track use. just curious really
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Can't help with 200 but I use 180/60 supercorsa sc 1 and 2 for road use and I love em.
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on gen 2 hemi ?
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No the earlier better model­čśĆ
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yet to try a gen 1 so i cant comment fella, but i will one day
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I use a 200/55 on my Gen 1 with a 525 chain, you may need a longer chain to pull it back in the swingarm, no side clearance issues though. No handling issues steers all good, gets around Mallory in 55/56 seconds.
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I don't get why you would what to put a 200 rear on a 130bhp bike there's no need I bet if you put a 190 60 or 180 60 on it you would go quicker 
The contact patch for a 220bhp bike needs it 
I struggled getting a 190 60 on my gen 1 will it did not happen 
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Originally posted by 2000r1 2000r1 wrote:

I use a 200/55 on my Gen 1 with a 525 chain, you may need a longer chain to pull it back in the swingarm, no side clearance issues though. No handling issues steers all good, gets around Mallory in 55/56 seconds.
Just coz you pull it back doesn't give you more clearance right and left 

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 Hi lads , it's me thats running the 200 tyre. I run a Metezler K2 200/55/17 and I love it . The bike is so stable also you can lift the front cranked over.  I had a 190 Perelli SP when I bought it and I thought they were sh*t,  I have ridden on SCs but that is a track tyre like the K2.  There's no clearance issues but it does lift the the back up by nearly 20-25mm so you might want to take the the ride height on the shock.  I had to do that with mine because it started to tankslap.  Now I have adjusted the Maxton shock to it aswell but it don't go as small as the oem Ohlins 310mm, the Maxton minium length is 315 but it's OK now ,bear in mind it will turn very quick because the tyre height.  I will never go back to a 190. And I didn't do it for looks either ,I wanted to put the power on earlier and have more grip,I had it of the ride side from new in 20 mins on the road it gives you that much confidence .Just need to wind the steering damper up as it will lift the wheel on it side so it shakes it head . It's bollocks that it won't handle , M9rko had it before me when he had a gen and also helped me with the first setup on the Ohlins . But like he said you really have to do to suit you. Backing a bit of ride height of will help. 
By the way for you who are coming to the Trackday I will post the latest details on the trackday post, it would help to know how many of us is coming so I will try to get a garage for us.
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sorry I forgot to add it's a gen 2 factory 05
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dog78 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2018 at 22:16
you can see a picture of it on the bike on the trackday post and you can see how taller the tyre is, I can't get my feet flat on the ground like I used to . It's a noticeable difference .
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lift the front cranked over?
Really?
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even Marquez couldn't do that 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dog78 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2018 at 22:29
it it will lift the front if you open it hard enough before its upright. I ain't no Marquez,but you can take liberties with that rubber .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dog78 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 2018 at 22:30
they were doing it in moto 3 on a 250
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Originally posted by dog78 dog78 wrote:

they were doing it in moto 3 on a 250

Yeah on 110s haha 
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they probably got same bhp as a rsv
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I think you been on the glue mate no way if you can do that you want to be bsb because even Leon Haslam carnt do that or Johnny rea
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if you put that much power cranked off to make the front lift you would high side no matter what side tyre you had on
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 426hemi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 2018 at 00:26
Yes you can lift the front cranked over, had it happen a few times myself, makes your arse twitch when your not expecting it though.
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My cranked over must be different to yours then. Because cranked over to me is elbow down on floor right to edge of tyre 
You know your self if you got that much force to the edge grip of any rear it's not going to end well at all.
I certainly don't think it's the 200 tyre doing it even if that is true
That to me is losing the front and saving it on your elbow and knee type of skill
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Af1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 2018 at 13:58
the big heavy tyre means a lot of power is lost. It's the latest trend like cars, to have ridiculous tyres on your bike. The bigger the tyres the slower a bike will turn, is one of the old rules of bike racing.Cry
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IanG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jul 2018 at 18:11
So is what we're saying here in effect is it's a swinging d*ck contest ?   My rubber's bigger than yours? LOL

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Yep,
Remember Aprilia put a 180 on the Gen1 'R' to make it turn and handle better than the standard bike that was fitted with a 190.

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