'04 just stops.

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   So I was driving yesterday and after about 15 minutes it just stopped, picked itself up for a few seconds and stopped again. When I turn the key all lights go on and the dash too, yet the engine didn't start. starter motor (?) doesn't even turn over, I just hear the fuel pump going.
Sometimes it does start though, sporadically. after that it just shuts off again. It must be something electrical right? battery and the contacts are okay. The roadside service guy was thinking about a sensor for the rpm that could be f**ked. Anyone has experience with this? I really hope I can fix it myself this time since I have spent more than I wanted already last year.

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Arzenzia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moto3 racer Joined: 11 May 2020 Location: Holland Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arzenzia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: '04 just stops. Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 18:59
	So I was driving yesterday and after about 15 minutes it just stopped, picked itself up for a few seconds and stopped again. When I turn the key all lights go on and the dash too, yet the engine didn't start. starter motor (?) doesn't even turn over, I just hear the fuel pump going. Sometimes it does start though, sporadically. after that it just shuts off again. It must be something electrical right? battery and the contacts are okay. The roadside service guy was thinking about a sensor for the rpm that could be f**ked. Anyone has experience with this? I really hope I can fix it myself this time since I have spent more than I wanted already last year.

wigginsjp Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premium Member Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Location: calne Status: Offline Points: 2776	Post Options Post Reply Quote wigginsjp Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 19:34
	Hi You try bridging the starter solenoid on the right hand side under the panel by seat? Usual stuff of check fuses etc I want to say maybe immobiliser issue also as they can fail and be bypassed or replaced. Sometimes the wire off the pick up comes off! Tbf Spoonz is one of the more knowledgeable chaps here and I’m sure will be along shortly to assist
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Arzenzia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moto3 racer Joined: 11 May 2020 Location: Holland Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arzenzia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 20:14
	The fuses are all okay. I did find out that I have a fall sensor, and that the sensor was sitting loose next to my battery. So it could be a simple f**kup as that (Hopefully) I did already drain the battery though, but a new one will arrive tomorrow so I can test that then. Could also be the immobiliser, I will check that out too! And I don't want to be rude but I have no idea what you are saying in the first sentence. Could you explain that one to me? Cheers

Ice-mille Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moto GP Alien Joined: 19 Aug 2016 Location: Iceland Status: Offline Points: 741	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ice-mille Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 21:01
	Also check, fuel injector relay in the rear compartment. Mine did this, and i switched relays, and voilá
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badapple Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premium Member Joined: 03 Nov 2014 Location: Norwich United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4952	Post Options Post Reply Quote badapple Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 21:13
	When you install the battery follow the correct procedure r you're going to knacker the new one. 1. Disconnect the old one key OUT of the ignition. 2. New battery in. 3. Key on but don't start set clock, shift light or just wait 30 seconds. 4. Key off. 5. Key on and start. This stops the bike going into a weird battery drain mode. Hopefully it will be ok with a fresh battery and the tip over sensor correctly seated good luck.
	I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left

Arzenzia Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moto3 racer Joined: 11 May 2020 Location: Holland Status: Offline Points: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote Arzenzia Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 18:33
	Ok, so I installed the new battery the way badapple described (again thanks for the grille btw!) and put the fall sensor in the right position. So far so good! Test drive was okay, I’ll be doing a longer one tomorrow. If it fails again i’ll check out the rest.

badapple Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premium Member Joined: 03 Nov 2014 Location: Norwich United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4952	Post Options Post Reply Quote badapple Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 19:45
	You're welcome bud fingers crossed
	I started out with nothing and I've still got most of it left

legend88 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Premium Member Joined: 18 Aug 2013 Location: Newcastle Status: Offline Points: 6046	Post Options Post Reply Quote legend88 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 21:52
	Sounds like the tip over sensor might have been your problem. If it was loose that would cause an intermittent problem as it moved and rocked about. Then you killed your battery trying? Fingers crossed

Ice-mille Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moto GP Alien Joined: 19 Aug 2016 Location: Iceland Status: Offline Points: 741	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ice-mille Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 22:13
	Great, hope it works out.
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